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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Reminds me of WW2 in Yugoslavia. Does this journey through history go back that far?
    It inevitably always does, my friend. Whenever this topic about Serbian crimes is discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzihadovic View Post
    It inevitably always does, my friend. Whenever this topic about Serbian crimes is discussed.
    Well, everyone feels their own wounds only.
    We can sympathize with with the suffering of others, but polarization makes it impossible to view things objectively, and a tendency to justify crimes committed by one own's by bringing up side rises.

    And why wouldn't we bring up things done to us when pitted with accusations from the other side?
    Then people tend to say stuff like "Well, that was more than 70 years ago".And Croats speak about how Ustashas were provoked by Serbian dominance in first Yugoslavia, and Bosniaks bring up the events that transpired during what is called the "11 genocides committed against Bosniaks", which date back to the Great Turkish war and Serbian uprisings in 19th century.
    And then have the audacity to blame US for bringing up crimes committed during WWII.
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    Slavs on Balkans need to create Russian Federation-like Federation and stop playing around like some 10yr old kids.

    Or else we will be extinct... then it will be unimportant who is Responsible for 9000 people in Srebrenica.

    Bosnia lost 150.000 people in 2 years, mostly young people who abandoned Bosnia for good (looking for better jobs and life)

    What's worse? Loosing 9000 or 150.000?

    When our people are gonna wake up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I would say the genocide committed by Croat fascists against Serbians during WW2 is far worse or are you unaware of that also? Hundreds of thousands of people (also forced conversions). We give people their rights. It was White Americans and Black Americans coming together to bring equal rights instead of committing genocide.

    The darkest shithole in the Balkans is a mass grave. We don't have mass graves here.
    Idiot, my grandfather was in Jasenovac.

    Yes, Croatian faschists comitted genocide which Croatian state never denied. At the same time there was chetnik genocide in ww2, quite lesser in numbers though, since they didn't have necessary power to carry it out.

    Ustashe were not chosed nor brought here by Croatian people, none of my family members was in ustashe and you can fuck off with your propaganda videos.

    Napalm bombs Americans threw on Vietnamese civilians are def. genoicde.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    It is and clearly you just found out about it now. How was your adventure in googling? If you had known about it already, you wouldn't have waited so long to have mentioned it. However, there was also the meeting at Graz. No need to google it.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=oF...udjman&f=false

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    This is all well known. It was also well known that Tudman had an alliance with the Bosniaks (it wasn't a secret. You can look it up in any newspaper from that time) and so when you pretended that they didn't I knew I was dealing with someone who didn't know the subject beyond 'muh people good. other people bad.'
    Are you idiot ? I know every detail about these wars, don't make me laugh. This ''proof'' isn't accepted by us, sorry.

    These claims ranged from denial that any agreement took place and characterizations of such speculations as conspiracy theories, to claims that they agreed on the repartitioning of Bosnia and Herzegovina between soon to be independent Croatia and Serbia, i.e. that territories with either an ethnic Croat or Serb majority would be annexed by the two states, with a rump Bosniak buffer state remaining in between. Since the Tuđman–Milošević talks took place without any witnesses, and no transcript was taken, the exact content of the talks is not known.

    On the other hand, most Croatian historians consider it a political myth because of a lack of direct evidence, and the difficulty of explaining the Yugoslav Wars, with Croats and Serbs as the main antagonists, in the context of a Serbo-Croatian agreement.[43][need quotation to verify] Ivica Lučić and Miroslav Tuđman claim that testimonies do not match, and that the anomalies can be explained by particular political interests.[43][44]

    Croatia recognized BiH among first, took in hundreds of tosands of it's civilians and without it it wouldn't exist today. Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    I had to laugh.

    um, you do realize that the US went to war against Hitler and that the Ustashe supported Hitler and adopted their genocidal policies right? Lets say the US supported Hitler in the 30s. Hitler wasn't committing mass murder in the 30s. A Croatian independent nation supported the Nazis when it was clear they were committing genocide. It was so clear to the Ustashe that they were willing partners in committing genocide.

    How ironic you used the word hypocrite for me.

    USTASHE WERE BROUGHT HERE BY ITALIANS AND GERMANS AFTER CROATIAN PEASANT PARTY (OUR LEGITIMATE LEADERS) REFUSED CORPORATION WITH THEM


    And leaders of Croatian peasant party were killed like dogs by Serbs radicals in Belgrade Parliament just few years ago.

    NDH wasn't indipendent at all.

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    Fuck USA, with your eugenics programs, racial segragation and import of democracy, mass shoting in schools, violent crime sand serial killers

    It's a sick and twisted society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Well all sides were bad, aren't they?
    Was it us coming to Belgrade, killing, raping and burning or was it you who came to us? Are we bad for defending ourselves? In Croatia you met an army, and got your butt kicked. In Bosnia and Kosovo you send your army on a thousand-man guerilla, barely armed and hastily put up by completely ordinary people. Albanian UCK was a student guerilla, started by students who were thrown out of university because they were albanians.

    If you come today, you will meet a professional army and we will see how well you fare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trilecce View Post
    Was it us coming to Belgrade, killing, raping and burning or was it you who came to us? Are we bad for defending ourselves? In Croatia you met an army, and got your butt kicked. In Bosnia and Kosovo you send your army on a thousand-man guerilla, barely armed and hastily put up by completely ordinary people. Albanian UCK was a student guerilla, started by students who were thrown out of university because they were albanians.

    If you come today, you will meet a professional army and we will see how well you fare.
    You were killing Serbian civilians before army came to defend them. Serbs are living in Kosovo, it is part of Serbia and you were terrorists who wanted to clean Kosovo of Serbs. You were killing unloyal Albanians as well.

    Did we should just watch how you do that to our people in our own land?

    Don't turn on camera only when you find good spot for story beginning.

    p.s UCK was student guerrila? Or did they were thrown from university because they were involved in illegal terrorist activities?

    Like I always say, Turkey has similar situation with Kurds but Erdogan have "back" to keep them quiet although they don't even have their own country like you have, not to mention human rights. But Serbia is not allowed to defend itself, why?

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