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    Default How can so many Spaniards ignore that Islam is a Monotheist religion?

    I'm an atheist but I love History of Religions. I'm currently reading "L'invention de Dieu" by Thomas Römer.
    I think that Religions were created by fear. If there weren't fear, stress, death, diseases, Religions would have never existed.

    However, I'm astonished by the lack of knowledge about Islam in Europe and in Spain more specifically as I've spent, a few years ago, about a year in Spain and discussed with several Spaniards about the topic.

    Lets summarize the very vague conception of Islam many Spaniards have :

    *Muslims don't worship the Christian God but another deity called Mahoma
    *Muslims don't even know that Jesus has existed as it's merely a Christian "character"
    *The same could be said about Adam and Eve, Noah and the Flood, Abraham and his sons, Joseph and his brothers, Moses, Aaron and Pharaoh, David and Solomon, Jonas and all the other Biblical myths.

    They strangely consider Islam as distinct from Christianity than could be Buddhism or Hinduism.
    They don't realize that common names among Muslims as Brahim, Ismael, Youssef, Younes, Ayoub, Zakaria or Meriem are just the equivalents of Abraham, Ismael, Joseph, Jonas, Job, Zacharias and Mary...
    I remember a Spanish girl asking why a Moroccan friend of her wrote "Gracias a Dios", thinking that he was using a "Christian expression".

    I already have some answers to my questions, but I would like to get yours.

    Last but not least : please, let's focus upon the topic and avoid xenophobic statements. Thank you.
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    I don't about Spain, but most Muslims around here don't know much about Islam to begin with.So who can we learn from
    I think the forcing of original Arabic version of Koran might be the reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormBringer View Post
    I don't about Spain, but most Muslims around here don't know much about Islam to begin with.So who can we learn from
    I think the forcing of original Arabic version of Koran might be the reason.
    I partially agree with you : most Muslims in Europe don't know much about Islam, but they are perfectly aware that Christians worship exactly the same God, that Moses or Jesus are fundamental character in Islam. In other words, although their knowledge about Islam and Christianity is very weak, the majority of them knows more about shared-elements between both religions that do many Europeans.

    I also reckon that the ignorance of many Europeans can't be explained by the fact that "Muslim don't know much about Islam"... Europeans have better access to libraries, scholars and knowledge than 90% of people from Muslim countries. To me, the answer would be that they aren't really interested in Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iẓeḍwan n Nanna-Tuda View Post
    I'm an atheist but I love History of Religions. I'm currently reading "L'invention de Dieu" by Thomas Römer.
    I think that Religions were created by fear. If there weren't fear, stress, death, diseases, Religions would have never existed.

    However, I'm astonished by the lack of knowledge about Islam in Europe and in Spain more specifically as I've spent, a few years ago, about a year in Spain and discussed with several Spaniards about the topic.

    Lets summarize the very vague conception of Islam many Spaniards have :

    *Muslims don't worship the Christian God but another deity called Mahoma
    *Muslims don't even know that Jesus has existed as it's merely a Christian "character"
    *The same could be said about Adam and Eve, Noah and the Flood, Abraham and his sons, Joseph and his brothers, Moses, Aaron and Pharaoh, David and Solomon, Jonas and all the other Biblical myths.

    They strangely consider Islam as distinct from Christianity than could be Buddhism or Hinduism.
    They don't realize that common names among Muslims as Brahim, Ismael, Youssef, Younes, Ayoub, Zakaria or Meriem are just the equivalents of Abraham, Ismael, Joseph, Jonas, Job, Zacharias and Mary...
    I remember a Spanish girl asking why a Moroccan friend of her wrote "Gracias a Dios", thinking that he was using a "Christian expression".

    I already have some answers to my questions, but I would like to get yours.

    Last but not least : please, let's focus upon the topic and avoid xenophobic statements. Thank you.
    In my opinion, Islam is a political ideology cloaked in the perfume of a "religion of peace."
    The Prophet Muhammad was a pedophile and mass murderer, very little good can come from his teachings.
    In a nutshell, Islam is about submission and the exportation of Sharia law, to subdue the infidels by conversion, slavery, or death.

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    You didn't get the point, I'm afraid...
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    Because Spaniards have nothing to do with Islam perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Because Spaniards have nothing to do with Islam perhaps?
    Brilliant comment, as usual ! Enhorabuena, muchacho.
    Let's follow your "logic" : I have nothing to do with Japanese people. Should I remain ignorant about their culture during my whole existence ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iẓeḍwan n Nanna-Tuda View Post
    Brilliant comment, as usual ! Enhorabuena, muchacho.
    Let's follow your "logic" : I have nothing to do with Japanese people. Should I remain ignorant about their culture during my whole existence ?
    You asked how can be that many Spaniards ignore Islam. You got the correct answer: we have nothing to do with Islam.

    Or what do you expect? perhaps do you expect that the answer is because Spaniards are retard or what?

    Brilliant has been your thread... talking about Spaniards and quoting only them in the title... what the fuck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    You asked how can be that many Spaniards ignore Islam. You got the correct answer: we have nothing to do with Islam.

    Or what do you expect? perhaps do you expect that the answer is because Spaniards are retard or what?

    Brilliant has been your thread... talking about Spaniards and quoting only them in the title... what the fuck...
    I didn't say anything about Spaniards being "retarded". I'm too respectful and too polite to say such a thing. I perfectly know that you don't represent the majority in Spain . In other words, Spaniards aren't retarded but you are, hehehe.
    Btw, in another thread, you said that I lived in Spain. I just master the language because I'm curious
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    Nobody denies that Islam is monotheistic. It's still a horrible religion.

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