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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The proto-Albanians definitely were isolated in the mountains going by linguistics and genetics, probably due to them being pushed up by occupiers. The Illyrians themselves probably weren't as much of a homogeneous group
    It make sense considering that Albanians as a whole are genetically very closely related to one another when it comes to autosomal studies. Your ancestors could have been those Illyrian people or closely related paleo-Balkan people that went up the mountains for safety when the Slavs first invaded the Balkans in the early middle ages. Though, I'm not really sure on how Balkan the southern Slavs are genetically on average since Stearsolina score around half-half Southern and Eastern European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The proto-Albanians definitely were isolated in the mountains going by linguistics and genetics, probably due to them being pushed up by occupiers. The Illyrians themselves probably weren't as much of a homogeneous group
    According to this, every proto-Albanian was pushed out from North Albania and Dardania(Kosovo) upto the Prokletije.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    It make sense considering that Albanians as a whole are genetically very closely related to one another when it comes to autosomal studies. Your ancestors could have been those Illyrian people or closely related paleo-Balkan people that went up the mountains for safety when the Slavs first invaded the Balkans in the early middle ages. Though, I'm not really sure on how Balkan the southern Slavs are genetically on average since Stearsolina score around half-half Southern and Eastern European.
    Yh going by IBD analysis Albanians were pretty isolated. Also the Albanian language is suggested by linguists to be a language that evolved in the mountainous regions of northern Albania or Kosovo although there are native words in Albanian linked to the sea and sea animals which tells us that the ancestors of the Albanians had contact with the sea and had seafaring knowledge and were pushed up inland probably during Roman occupation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    It make sense considering that Albanians as a whole are genetically very closely related to one another when it comes to autosomal studies. Your ancestors could have been those Illyrian people or closely related paleo-Balkan people that went up the mountains for safety when the Slavs first invaded the Balkans in the early middle ages. Though, I'm not really sure on how Balkan the southern Slavs are genetically on average since Stearsolina score around half-half Southern and Eastern European.
    I score more eastern than southern European!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrong View Post
    According to this, every proto-Albanian was pushed out from North Albania and Dardania(Kosovo) upto the Prokletije.
    The Prokletije/Bjeshket e neumuna are a part of the Dinaric mountains which covers Montenegro, North Albania and Kosovo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yh going by IBD analysis Albanians were pretty isolated. Also the Albanian language is suggested by linguists to be a language that evolved in the mountainous regions of northern Albania or Kosovo although there are native words in Albanian linked to the sea and sea animals which tells us that the ancestors of the Albanians had contact with the sea and had seafaring knowledge and were pushed up inland probably during Roman occupation
    True. I mean, the Albanian language is around 3,000 years old which had diverged from the PIE language before the Balto-Slavic languages did. There were Illyrians who were pirates and sailors back in the day as well, especially those that were living up the coasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrong View Post
    Yeah. I am merely stating this from the Bronze/Iron Age Balkan samples, dating closely to the times of these populations.
    If a sample of E-V13 was found in Dalmatia dating of Neolithic period this should tell us enough that the region had high ever present E-V13 throughout all Balkans, this hg most certainly was passed to all groups equally and not exclusively in one group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior View Post
    If a sample of E-V13 was found in Dalmatia dating of Neolithic period this should tell us enough that the region had high ever present E-V13 throughout all Balkans, this hg most certainly was passed to all groups equally and not exclusively in one group.
    J2b2 that was found in Ancient Dalmatia reaches 2% nowadays there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    The Prokletije/Bjeshket e neumuna are a part of the Dinaric mountains which covers Montenegro, North Albania and Kosovo
    Yeah, I meant the fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrong View Post
    J2b2 that was found in Ancient Dalmatia reaches 2% nowadays there.
    You are forgetting that the region was one of the first to colonized by Romans, latter by Slavs, so normally shouldn't come as surprise to have such a low %, this doesn't tells much to dismiss my past argument.

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