Can he pass for Middle Eastern?

**justpassing** · 03-20-2018, 01:26 AM

[QUOTE=Oddone;5033899]The same Sicilian guy in other pics

These kids, are my idea of Sicilians to be honest. I remember also seeing redheads over there. That dude looks like a Tunisian imo. Hard to tell how common people like him are. (that little girl next to him also)..

**JohnSmith** · 03-20-2018, 01:29 AM

Can't say much from one pic of a guy.

**Oddone** · 03-20-2018, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by justpassing

These kids, are my idea of Sicilians to be honest. I remember also seeing redheads over there. That dude looks like a Tunisian imo. Hard to tell how common people like him are. (that little girl next to him also)..

The pic was taken in northern Italy. Feel free to state that he looks Tunisian, you can fool a forum but not me, I see Tunisians everyday and they don't look like those cheerypicked in forums.

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 03-20-2018, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by justpassing

How does that work though ? From what i remember. (again, i only visited Sicily once in my life), most of them looked european for sure. Some, less so, but they were the minority. And the ones that looked darker certainly didn't look like that guy. But hey, he's the living proof that they do exist. But how does that work ? Looking back at Sicily's past, it would mean that (if he's a genuine Sicilian and has been so for several generations), somehow his parents, his grand parents, and great-great-great etc..all had kids with people who looked like that then ? How come not all of Sicily looks like this ? Or is there a part of Sicily, like..an entire village where people basically look like Tunisians ?

Sicilians are genetically outlying for Europe, the only groups who are as outlying from DNA are Maltese and some islands like Crete.

**~~Yago~~** · 03-20-2018, 01:31 AM

[QUOTE=justpassing;5033910]

Originally Posted by Oddone

The same Sicilian guy in other pics

These kids, are my idea of Sicilians to be honest. I remember also seeing redheads over there. That dude looks like a Tunisian imo. Hard to tell how common people like him are. (that little girl next to him also)..

Yes, blonde, blue eyed generic white kids are the ideal sicilians living in the middle of the Mediterranean sea. Nigga you kidding me? I mean I don't think the guy in the video is the average sicilian but those kids are neither Sicilian (probadly) or cherrypicked to point out some agenda (given the one who posted it is obviously some butthurt Italian)

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 03-20-2018, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by kleenex

I would say he could "pass" in the Levant. The Sicilians I've met are much less Eastern shifted (phenotypically) than this individual but if he said he were from Sicily I wouldn't be shocked. I'd love to see his genetic composition

Where does the man in question pass best to you?

**~~AK-47~~** · 03-20-2018, 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=justpassing;5033910]

Originally Posted by Oddone

The same Sicilian guy in other pics

These kids, are my idea of Sicilians to be honest. I remember also seeing redheads over there. That dude looks like a Tunisian imo. Hard to tell how common people like him are. (that little girl next to him also)..

In my opinion, your idea of Sicilians is more on the lighter side of the spectrum and represented a relatively small minority.
The majority of Sicilians have darker features.
Blondism/red-hair, in Sicilians is a relatively rare trait, and not by any means typical.
A Mediterranean skin complexion is the norm, and an ability to get a deep tan in the warmer months is also the norm.
I do agree with you that the OP's picture is atypical for Sicilians.

**justpassing** · 03-20-2018, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Oddone

The pic was taken in northern Italy. Feel free to state that he looks Tunisian, you can fool a forum but not me, I see Tunisians everyday and they don't look like those cheerypicked in forums.

Trust me, my country is sadly, invaded by Tunisians, morrocans, Algerians... I don't know the type of Tunisians people tend to post around here. (i'm new to the forum btw) but that guy looks quite semetic to me. Maybe i'm exaggerating but he could pass as a Tunisian. He wouldn't look out of place in this picture imo

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 03-20-2018, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by justpassing

Trust me, my country is sadly, invaded by Tunisians, morrocans, Algerians... I don't know the type of Tunisians people tend to post around here. (i'm new to the forum btw) but that guy looks quite semetic to me. Maybe i'm exaggerating but he could pass as a Tunisian. He wouldn't look out of place in this picture imo

What I don't get is why you think Sicilians, a European group with an unparalleled level of MENA input for Europe (except Malta and, if you count it, Cyprus) will not have phenotypes like this.

**~~AK-47~~** · 03-20-2018, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Sikeliot

What I don't get is why you think Sicilians, a European group with an unparalleled level of MENA input for Europe (except Malta and, if you count it, Cyprus) will not have phenotypes like this.

It does seem baffling, why people wouldn't grasp that Sicilians are on average a hybridized group, straddling between the MENA and Southern Europe.
Of course some can pass squarely in the MENA.