Turks rule the world 2200 years as did Central Asian,but why East Asians ruled them thousand years ?

[Kelmendasi]

The greeks lost the war against the Indians. Alexander the great were seriously wounded by Indians and never recovered.

Even Turks and Iranians could never conquer India at those times as Alexander the Great couldn't. Greeks were the most powerful that time but even they have to lose.

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No they didn't, Alexander won each battle against the Indians to the point that he had control over the Indus region and annexed the kingdom of Punjab but had to pull back due to his soldiers being home sick and officers suggesting to pull back because of that reason.

[Kelmendasi]

That don't make sense. All empires historically had technology. Alexander the great were killed and humiliated by Indians.

I mean even trying to find a map of a Turkic empire ruling over East Asian is non-existent. On the hand there are plenty of maps of East Asian empire ruling over central Asians.

Alexander the great wasn't killed by Indians, he died from an alcohol induced liver disease in Babylon. How was he humiliated when he won the battles against the Indians especially at Hydaspes and annexed the kingdom of Punjab? If anything, the Indians were humiliated as Alexander only lost around 1,000 troops in the battle of Hydaspes whilst the Indians lost over 10,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian...nder_the_Great

[ButlerKing]

Both your statements in the title are wrong.

1. Stop posting maps of brief expansions or territories which are actually protectorates not depicted in these amateur maps.
2. How the hell do you expect Turkic horse empires to appear in Taiwan and Japan.
3. Chinese dynasties first and foremost were seen as sources of wealth and trade, and at times when Turks were strong enough they would extract tribute as well. They understood that any conquest of China proper would entail subsequent sinification so they opted for the control of trade routes that exited China instead.
5. Tibet is mountainous away from trades routes (Silk Road).

Protectorates = controlled, ruled over, submission
It is no different to being ruled.
Well I don't know.... they appeared all the to Africa so why not in the rest of East Asia.

To me it seems strange they couldn't expand their empires to the East.

[ButlerKing]

No they didn't, Alexander won each battle against the Indians to the point that he had control over the Indus region and annexed the kingdom of Punjab but had to pull back due to his soldiers being home sick and officers suggesting to pull back because of that reason.

At least read wikipedia if your knowledge is low. Alexander feared the Indian army

Indian campaign of Alexander the Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian...nder_the_Great

" After conquering the Achaemenid Empire of Persia, the Macedonian king (and now the great king of the Persian Empire), Alexander, launched a campaign into the Indian subcontinent. The rationale for this campaign is usually said to be Alexander's desire to conquer the entire known world, which the Greeks thought ended in India. "

" After gaining control of the former Achaemenid satrapy of Gandhara, including the city of Taxila, Alexander advanced into Punjab. The Battle of the Jhelum river against a regional Indian King, Porus, is considered by many historians, Peter Connolly being one of them, as the most costly battle fought by the armies of Alexander. Subsequently, his army refused to cross the Beas River, fearful of the powerful Nanda Empire which lay to the East along the banks of the Ganges. Therefore, Alexander turned south, advancing through southern Punjab and Sindh, along the way conquering more tribes along the lower Indus River, before returning into the west. "

[Yaglakar]

Protectorates = controlled, ruled over, submission
It is no different to being ruled.
Well I don't know.... they appeared all the to Africa so why not in the rest of East Asia.

To me it seems strange they couldn't expand their empires to the East.

Look this a map from an academic publication (not wikipedia) right before the Genghis Khan's invasion. Look at Qara-Khitai territories



Notice how everything fragmented. Qara-Khitai control modern Kyrgyzstan and southern portion of Xinjiang (Karakhanid Khanate collapsed at that point)

Now look at the amateur wikipedia map:



This is just one example. I could go on and debunk all your maps.

[Kelmendasi]

At least read wikipedia if your knowledge is low. Alexander feared the Indian army

Indian campaign of Alexander the Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian...nder_the_Great

" After conquering the Achaemenid Empire of Persia, the Macedonian king (and now the great king of the Persian Empire), Alexander, launched a campaign into the Indian subcontinent. The rationale for this campaign is usually said to be Alexander's desire to conquer the entire known world, which the Greeks thought ended in India. "

" After gaining control of the former Achaemenid satrapy of Gandhara, including the city of Taxila, Alexander advanced into Punjab. The Battle of the Jhelum river against a regional Indian King, Porus, is considered by many historians, Peter Connolly being one of them, as the most costly battle fought by the armies of Alexander. Subsequently, his army refused to cross the Beas River, fearful of the powerful Nanda Empire which lay to the East along the banks of the Ganges. Therefore, Alexander turned south, advancing through southern Punjab and Sindh, along the way conquering more tribes along the lower Indus River, before returning into the west. "

He still beat the Indians in every battle against them and annexed the Indus and if your knowledge was so good then you should know that as well as the fact that he pulled back due to his troops, also lol at you saying "Your knowledge is low" when you thought Alexander was killed by the Indians . Who cares if he feared them or not, he still decisively beat them in each battle as is even stated in the quotes you posted.

[ButlerKing]

Alexander the great wasn't killed by Indians, he died from an alcohol induced liver disease in Babylon. How was he humiliated when he won the battles against the Indians especially at Hydaspes and annexed the kingdom of Punjab? If anything, the Indians were humiliated as Alexander only lost around 1,000 troops in the battle of Hydaspes whilst the Indians lost over 10,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian...nder_the_Great

You really underestimate Indians don't you? Alexander the Great conquered the Egyptians, Anatolians, Central Asian Iranians , and the Achaemenid Empire of Persia who even badly defeated the Romans of that time but in India he was rubbish.

In India he was wounded heavily, it was the most difficult conquest. That's because India that time were one of the world strongest or the most strongest. At that time no one could conquer India that's because India were the toughest warriors in the world that time especially under Ashoka the Great,

He extended all the way to Afghanistan and a portion of Iran, Tajikistan. At that time India had the largest most powerful army in the world.

[ButlerKing]

Look this a map from an academic publication (not wikipedia) right before the Genghis Khan's invasion. Look at Qara-Khitai territories



Notice how everything fragmented. Qara-Khitai control modern Kyrgyzstan and southern portion of Xinjiang (Karakhanid Khanate collapsed at that point)

Now look at the amateur wikipedia map:



This is just one example. I could go on and debunk all your maps.

This doesn't debunks anything unfortunately. Your map is too messy and old fashion is no different than the maps in the early 1800's where everything is messy.

[Kelmendasi]

You really underestimate Indians don't you? Alexander the Great conquered the Egyptians, Anatolians, Central Asian Iranians , and the Achaemenid Empire of Persia who defeated Romans.

But in India he was wounded heavily, it was the most difficult conquest. That's because India that time were one of the world strongest or the most strongest. At that time no one could conquer India that's because India were the toughest warriors in the world that time especially under Ashoka the Great,


extended all the way to Afghanistan and a smaller portion of Iran, Tajikistan with the largest army in the world.

Are you actually not able to comprehend the fact that Alexander beat each Indian army he came up against? Yes he was wounded in India during the Mallian campaign but his forces still ended up taking the citadel and massacred the people and annexed the region, he also recovered from the injury. India definitely wasn't one of the most powerful during the classical era for sure, also if they were the best warriors then why did they lose to Alexander and his Macedonian troops even in their own country, imagine if they were fighting in Macedon.

[ButlerKing]

He still beat the Indians in every battle against them and annexed the Indus and if your knowledge was so good then you should know that as well as the fact that he pulled back due to his troops, also lol at you saying "Your knowledge is low" when you thought Alexander was killed by the Indians . Who cares if he feared them or not, he still decisively beat them in each battle as is even stated in the quotes you posted.

I know it pains you to admit that Indian killed and humiliated Alexander the Greeks (or Macedonians) and you should watch the movie by Colin Farrell acting as Alexander the great should teach you facts and reality, he was violated by Indians.