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Educated / spanish educado (meaning polite)
Very common mistake.
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About the mellon you are right. We call water mellon in three ways in Italy, "cocomero", "anguria" e "cetrone". Cetrone originates an other false friend "citron" but it is more dialectal than correct Italian. Anguria and cocomero are perfect synonimous but the most correct word is "anguria". If you to supermarket you find that on indications, while in spoken Italian cocomero is more used.Originally Posted by Count Arnau
Nice thread.
Two notes:
In this case the weird one is Italian. French concombre, Catalan cogombre, Spanish cohombro and Portuguese cogombro mean the same or very similar to English cucumber.
In Romance languages it's not a school child, but it's a boy or girl under the protection of a tutor.
"Pupilla" in Italian and I think also in Spanish doesn't mean "pupil" but it's a part of the eye.
Identical to Italian. Same meaning, but in Italian we say respectively: attuale, adepto, avvertimento, arma, bouquet (pronunced bookè), camera, carro, eventualmente, fabbrica, faro, fondo, libreria, magazzino, prezzo (but meaning price), preservativo, prospetto, scolaro, sensibile, severo, tavolo.
Tabla is not from slavonic, but from Latin "tabula"
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Other false friends for Italians
fall: similar to ITA. "fallo", meaning both "faul" and "phallus". Instead "fall" means ITA. "caduta".
ultimate: similar to ITA. "ultimato" and "ultimatum", that in English are respectively "finished" and "ultimatum". Ultimate means ITA. "supremo".
Accident. I am sure 90% of Italians use it in the wrong way. Similar to ITA. "accidente" (=damn), it means on the contrary ITA. "incidente".
educate similar ITA "educato" (polite). Educate is ITA. "erudito".
pork similar to ITA. "porco", meaning both "pig" and "a dirty person/a perv". In English it indicated the meat of the pig, what in Italian is called "suino" (compare ENG. "swine").
bell, similar to ITA. "bel/bello" (=beautiful). The Italian equivalent of bell is instead "campanello".
cold, similar to ITA: "caldo" (=warm/hot). Cold in English means the opposite and its Italian equivalent is "freddo" (compare ENG. "freeze" and "frost").
Gymnasium, ITA: "ginnasio". The word is an ancient Greek word indicating "gym". In English it mantains the old meaning, while in Italian it is the first to years of the Classical High School, called this way becouse they work as a mental gym for the following 3 years of Lyceum.
Familiar, ITA "familiare" (=relative/of the same family). ENG. "well known/ben conosciuto".
Firm, ITA "firma" (=signature). ENG ="business/ditta".
Cute, ITA "cute" (=skin), ENG. = "nice/carino".
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EnglishGermanic - What
SwedishGermanic - Vad
EnlgishGermanic - Mardy (from the word Marred; Old English - Mierran)
Icelandic - Merja
Old High German - Merren
EnglishGermanic - You
SwedishGermanic - Du
EnglishGermanic - Where
SwedishGermanic - Var
EnglishGermanic - How
SwedishGermanic - Hur
EnglishGermanic - Are
SwedishGermanic - Mår
EnglishGermanic - All
SwedishGermanic - Alla
EnglishGermanic - Life
SwedishGermanic - Live
EnglishGermanic - Death
SwedishGermanic - Död
- Okay it doesn't look exactly the same, but this is East Norse compared to Anglo-Frisian/Ignaevonic language. Lets have a look at other examples...
W. FrisianGermanic(Anglo-Frisian) - Dead
DutchGermanic(Istvaeonic) - Dood
IcelandicGermanic(West Norse) - Dauða (the eth here, is pronounced Th.)
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Arm does indeed mean (among other things) 'weapon' in English. Hence 'armed robbery' etc.
Scholar means (among other things) 'pupil' in English, too.SCHOLAR - similar to școlar (pupil)
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Yes we know that English is a germanic language. This thread is for romance speakers (French, Italians, Spaniards, Portugueses, Romanians and Moldavians) to help us in understanding the right meaning of some loans of romance origin that in English changed meaning.
In other words, some English words from Latin, Italian, French changed meaning with the time. Often English conserves the old meaning, while in modern romance languages the meaning has changed, so when we use these words we often mean an other thing, so a romance speaker means something but the English speaker understands an other thing.
This thread is also about some English words which look similar to romance words but have germanic origins and an other meaning. If an Italian reads "arm", the first thing we think of is "weapon" (in Italiana "arma"), same for "army" (in Italian "esercito").
Army is from Latin-> "armata", which effectively means "army", but today "armata" in modern Italian refers more to a sea army/a float or to many troops of warriors, so to an ancient or medieval army.
We call these words "false-friends" becouse apparently they help us (they look similar to our words) but actually they have an other meaning and mistake us.
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Hey, and Belgians, Swiss, Andorrans, Monegasque and Sanmarinese?
< La Catalogne peut se passer de l'univers entier, et ses voisins ne peuvent se passer d'elle. > Voltaire
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That's 'Cucumber'
'Armada' is used in English for a large sea army/a float, coming from the 'Spanish Armada', 'Fleet' is the more native/common name for such.
You might also add 'liberale' (It) vs 'liberal' (Eng). 'Liberal' (Eng) generally refers to socialdemocratici.
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No they are not allowed.Hey, and Belgians, Swiss, Andorrans, Monegasque and Sanmarinese?Especially Sanmarineses... Let's include also Vatican then...
Liberale also in Italian refers to a right oriented political party of the XIX century.
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