Immigrants: Who let them in?

[Joe McCarthy]

Lately it seems we've been delving into immigration and how our countries got swamped. It seems to me worthwhile to look at several countries' national experience and ask which side of the political spectrum was primarily responsible for letting the Third World in. In Australia, Sweden, the US, and Britain, the center-left initiated policies that either destroyed race based immigration laws, enthroned multiculturalism as state ideology, or reversed policies designed to keep immigrants out. The big four villains in these four countries are named Blair, Johnson, Palme, and Whitlam. What's interesting in this is that these men were representative of parties with strong support from labor unions and comparatively weak support from big business.

[Fortis in Arduis]

The Conservatives played their part in the UK, but they were not so bad.

I think that the name Airey Neave has come up a few times, he died horribly.

The legacy of assholism goes back to Churchill and further, but none of these fruits were as bad as the Champagne socialists.

[Curtis24]

Both political spectrums are responsible - the Left because they want immigrant votes, the Right because they want immigrant labor.

[Joe McCarthy]

The most instructive case may very well be Australia. Middle class professionals, liberal Presbyterians, academics, and 60's leftists, led by Gough Whitlam, succeeded in destroying the White Australia Policy, despite the ALP's union backing. Later, the center-right Liberals jumped on the bandwagon to try and win migrant support, but the impetus for the destruction of white Australia came from the left. That isn't to say the Liberals were entirely innocent, but they weren't nearly as guilty as the 'New Guard' of the ALP.

[antonio]

Democracy system rooten by political correctness as the hideous form of Leftism. Every fucking party participating in it weaken its stands proportionally to the number of its militants sucking from the nations body. At the end modern ideologies are just amorfous semisolids artifacts, deformable to maximize the short-term comfort of spineless crowds constituted in electoral moronic majories. Repugnant image but full of true.

[Joe McCarthy]

Both political spectrums are responsible - the Left because they want immigrant votes, the Right because they want immigrant labor.

That implies that both sides are equally guilty and overlooks the fact that in the US for example, it was Democrats, union backing notwithstanding, that overthrew our race based immigration laws. The GOP today is much less pro-immigration even with its strong business backing. It was Republicans in Congress, not Democrats, that bodyslammed Bush's amnesty bill. The Democrats supported it.

[Joe McCarthy]

As for the UK the Tories have been much better than Labour. Anti-discrimination laws were passed under Labour with Wilson while the Tories under Heath made zero net immigration the goal. Further restrictions came under Thatcher, including repeal of the centuries old common law standard of automatic citizenship accorded to those born on British soil. Only with Blair did immigration become seen as a plus.

[Troll's Puzzle]

it's a mistake to put Blair as 'the bad guy' (although he is a bad guy) on this issue and that everything was fine before him, or he was the one who suddenly opened the floodgates or something. He was more of a 'natural progression' from what has gone on steadily since the war, than a sudden change. There were already race riots in britain in the '50s, and they really started flaring up in the '80s (critical mass reached after Labour rule through the 70's had opened the doors wiiiiide... again)

I suppose most people would point to the British Nationality Act 1948 (enacted under a labour govt) as the 'starting point'. I would say that poltics has been fairly cyclical since 1945 in the UK, labour gets in, spends all the money & bankrups the country, and operates 'open borders', nationalist vote increases on the back of the tension, Conservatives then get in as people are sick of Labour, they talk tough in immigration (causing nationalist parties to recede into the background again) but do nothing (& any loudmouth of their party who talks about it is marginalised eg. Powell), make lots of cuts due to Labour having spent everything, the people hate it and blame them and vote Labour again. I think we're on the 3rd repeat of that cycle now and I'm sensing it might be the last.

I think you wildly over-exaggerate the 'goodness' of tories on this issue, I've seen a couple of 'conservative, pro-WASP' americans do this now and I can only assume it's because you're over there reading about it only in certain channels only and not on the business end of it here. I'm also suprised you missed the opportunity to blame Hitler for 'losing WWII and making Racism (and relatedly, being anti-immigration) bad in the process'

[Breedingvariety]

I believe it was a conscious policy by ruling elites to destroy white nations.

[Don Brick]

I believe it was a conscious policy by ruling elites to destroy white nations.

And what would be the motives behind something so grandiose?