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    Ecstasy does not wreck the mind, study claims

    Previous research was flawed, say experts, but findings will shock those who campaign against the drug's use


    Ecstasy tablets induce a sense of euphoria and intimacy with others, and diminished anxiety and depression

    There is no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage, according to one of the largest studies into the effects of the drug. Too many previous studies made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, say the scientists responsible for the research, and the drug's dangers have been greatly exaggerated.

    The finding will shock campaigners who have claimed ecstasy poses a real risk of triggering brain damage. They have argued that it can induce memory loss, decrease cognitive performance and has long-lasting effects on behaviour.

    But experts who have argued that the drug is relatively safe welcomed the new paper. "I always assumed that, when properly designed studies were carried out, we would find ecstasy does not cause brain damage," said Professor David Nutt, who was fired as chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs by Alan Johnson, then home secretary, for publicly stating alcohol and tobacco were more harmful than ecstasy.

    The study was carried out by a team led by Professor John Halpern of Harvard Medical School and published in the journal Addiction last week. Funded by a $1.8m grant from the US National Institute on Drug Abuse, it was launched specifically to avoid methodological drawbacks that have bedevilled previous attempts to pinpoint whether or not ecstasy users suffer brain damage.

    Ecstasy – or 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA – came into widespread use in the 1980s when taking it was linked to raves and the playing of dance music. Its symptoms include euphoria, a sense of intimacy with others and diminished anxiety and depression. In the US alone, more than 12 million have taken it.

    But the taking of ecstasy has also been linked to damage to the central nervous system and research in recent years has suggested that long-term changes to emotional states and behaviour have been triggered by consumption of the drug. Possession of it has been made an offence in most western nations.

    However, Halpern was sharply critical of the quality of the research that had linked ecstasy to brain damage. "Too many studies have been carried out on small populations, while overarching conclusions have been drawn from them," he said. For a start, some previous research has studied users who were taken from a culture dominated by all-night dancing, which thus exposed these individuals to sleep and fluid deprivation – factors that are themselves known to produce long-lasting cognitive effects. Non-users were not selected from those from a similar background, which therefore skewed results. In addition, past studies have not taken sufficient account of the fact that ecstasy users take other drugs or alcohol that could affect cognition or that they may have suffered intellectual impairment before they started taking ecstasy. In Halpern's study only ecstasy users who took no other drugs and who had suffered no previous impairment were selected.

    The resulting experiment whittled down 1,500 potential participants to 52 selected users, whose cognitive abilities matched those of a group of 59 non-users. "We even took hair samples of participants to test whether they were telling the truth about their drug and alcohol habits," said Halpern. "Essentially we compared one group of people who danced and raved and took ecstasy with a similar group of individuals who danced and raved but who did not take ecstasy. When we did that, we found that there was no difference in their cognitive abilities." In other words, previous studies highlighted problems triggered by other factors, such as use of other drugs or drink, or sleep deprivation.

    But the drug still posed risks, he said. "Ecstasy consumption is dangerous because illegally made pills often contain contaminants that can have harmful side-effects."

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    And here is a good blog piece about it too:

    The alcohol and the ecstasy: prejudice drowns out sense

    The government's rank relationship with the drinks industry contributes to a twisted logic that contorts policy on intoxicants

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    I think that this study is flawed and aimed at appeasing a certain group of individuals. I've seen first hand the damage that chronic, hedonistic ecstasy abuse can cause. One of my friends has become ridden with anxiety because of these pills. Although he went way over board what most people would consider moderate use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalwolf View Post
    I think that this study is flawed and aimed at appeasing a certain group of individuals. I've seen first hand the damage that chronic, hedonistic ecstasy abuse can cause. One of my friends has become ridden with anxiety because of these pills. Although he went way over board what most people would consider moderate use.
    That's the problem: you think. You are clearly prejudiced.

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    I am certainly relieved to know this.
    The last time I did any of that stuff was nearly 20 years ago and now they tell me that I will be alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    That's the problem: you think. You are clearly prejudiced.
    No, you're just being naive.
    Last edited by Adalwolf; 02-21-2011 at 07:43 PM. Reason: word added for specific time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodeagle View Post
    I am certainly relieved to know this.
    The last time I did any of that stuff was nearly 20 years ago and now they tell me that I will be alright.
    You seem perfectly alright to me. I hate it when governments use scare tactics and flawed "studies" to try and scare people away from things they want to make illegal, rather than telling the truth. But in the end, the truth will always triumph. This is really no different than Tony Blair saying Saddam can launch WMD's in 45 minutes, just in order to find public support for a war. Exactly the same tactic!!

    In light of this study, what justification is there for MDMA to be a Class A drug (along with things like heroin and crack), and yet alcohol is fully legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalwolf View Post
    No, you're just naive.
    On the contrary. I am openminded and open to any facts. You don't seem to be.

    You talked about your friend who abused the drug, and then had problems. Yes, and? Anything will cause problems if abused. Chug a bottle full of aspirin every day and see how quickly you get stomach bleeds. That doesn't mean aspirin is evil. Ecstasy is not something one should use too often, all advice says that. Dudes who use that stuff every weekend are idiots.

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    It does drain spinal fluid though, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas Æquitas View Post
    It does drain spinal fluid though, doesn't it?
    Spinal fluid? Never heard of that. It drains serotonin. But the serotonin levels automatically return to normal after a week or so. Which is why it is advised to wait a few weeks minimum between usage.

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