Do you wish Brazil was a Spanish speaking country?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

did u read a nything i said about it

cibaeños replace all their R sounds for an I, taide is just one word, r u really gonna argue with me over that dumb word, i already proved you with the dominican whiteness thing, he said taide but like i said, if u were really dominican from DR u could undrstand 100% of what he was saying

dominican americans and dominicans r not the same brah

but the reason y cibaeños talk that way is because along time ago we had portuguese settlers in the cibao valley around the 1500s and 1600s, at that time portuguese settlers came to the americas in large

the problem is that it was way too long ago, that is basically part of our history that has been deluted by the later oncomming canarians, the famous canarian immigration of the 18th century to the spanish caribbean and other areas. some linguists have suggested that the "i" sound in cibao spanish may have formed by way of a old still living relec of the bozal spanish, which was a spanish portuguese african creole language or pidgin, but idk if im too in agreement with it

but it is definitely a portuguese influence and or a old andaluzian influence which btw would make no difference at this point since DR at said time before the canarians came, were basically andaluzian and portuguese ppl with little to no other iberians or euros, however blacks and mulattoes were more numerous than the euros at that time like today, because of slavery, but that is a whole other subject, and the cibao was actually blacker than it is today but it is becoming again like how it once was because of dominicans migrating from all over into santiago de los caballeros

the point im trying to make here is that "i" sound is portuguese

another interestuing theory also argued by some dominicans who study our culture very indept such as one that u may know that goes by the name of "jorge estevez" he is a dominican taino (obioyuslty not pure) but if im not mistaken, he scored as much native as you and hes a pure dominican from the cibao, if u dont know him look him up so u can see his pheno, its actually pretty interesting to see that we srtill have dominicans like that

Whyte man. Please for goodness sakes just give the time in the video where he says taide. And that dominican is an embarrassment. Hes like a redneck but dark brown.
I put a portugeese translator to pronounce tarde and it didnt sound like taide. It still has an r sound to it


https://www.google.com/search?client...hFgh2kB168o%3D

It pronounces like t-ar-ges or tar-dges

[Dominicanese]

Whyte man. Please for goodness sakes just give the time in the video where he says taide. And that dominican is an embarrassment. Hes like a redneck but dark brown.
I put a portugeese translator to pronounce tarde and it didnt sound like taide. It still has an r sound to it


https://www.google.com/search?client...hFgh2kB168o%3D

It pronounces like t-ar-ges or tar-dges

you dont get it bro

we r talking about a very old dialect, cibao spanish is proly one a the oldest spanish dialects in latin america

heres another cibao spanish, also says taide brah


and that brown guy aint no embarrasment, hes a campesino, something that u never seen before cause u havent gone the real DR

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

you dont get it bro

we r talking about a very old dialect, cibao spanish is proly one a the oldest spanish dialects in latin america

heres another cibao spanish, also says taide brah


and that brown guy aint no embarrasment, hes a campesino, something that u never seen before cause u havent gone the real DR

I dont hear any "taide" or tarde. What part of the video he says that? I just hear him talking a story of some trannies.

[Carlito's Way]

did u read a nything i said about it

cibaeños replace all their R sounds for an I, taide is just one word, r u really gonna argue with me over that dumb word, i already proved you with the dominican whiteness thing, he said taide but like i said, if u were really dominican from DR u could undrstand 100% of what he was saying

dominican americans and dominicans r not the same brah

but the reason y cibaeños talk that way is because along time ago we had portuguese settlers in the cibao valley around the 1500s and 1600s, at that time portuguese settlers came to the americas in large

the problem is that it was way too long ago, that is basically part of our history that has been deluted by the later oncomming canarians, the famous canarian immigration of the 18th century to the spanish caribbean and other areas. some linguists have suggested that the "i" sound in cibao spanish may have formed by way of a old still living relec of the bozal spanish, which was a spanish portuguese african creole language or pidgin, but idk if im too in agreement with it

but it is definitely a portuguese influence and or a old andaluzian influence which btw would make no difference at this point since DR at said time before the canarians came, were basically andaluzian and portuguese ppl with little to no other iberians or euros, however blacks and mulattoes were more numerous than the euros at that time like today, because of slavery, but that is a whole other subject, and the cibao was actually blacker than it is today but it is becoming again like how it once was because of dominicans migrating from all over into santiago de los caballeros

the point im trying to make here is that "i" sound is portuguese

another interestuing theory also argued by some dominicans who study our culture very indept such as one that u may know that goes by the name of "jorge estevez" he is a dominican taino (obioyuslty not pure) but if im not mistaken, he scored as much native as you and hes a pure dominican from the cibao, if u dont know him look him up so u can see his pheno, its actually pretty interesting to see that we srtill have dominicans like that

in his argument, he claims that the "i" sound in cibao spanish is actually from the taino and his conclusiong to this is rfom the extensive amount of taino names we have around the island which end with "ei" such as "mamei" baracutei, higuey

it didnt come from portuguese settlers or tainos
because the eastern part of cuba, it has been reported that they also do the same thing
the same happens in certain parts of Choco, Colombia
and even some part of Costa Chica, Mexico they do it too

what im guessing is that it came from africans who were colonized by the Portuguese and this was their way of speaking


and no, most Spanish in the Dominican republic were not Andalusian and Portuguese, in fact Portuguese were less than 1% of the Dominican republic during the colonial days
most spaniards in dominican republic were andalusians, old castilians, new castilians, leones, extremadurans

[Dominicanese]

it didnt come from portuguese settlers or tainos
because the eastern part of cuba, it has been reported that they also do the same thing
the same happens in certain parts of Choco, Colombia
and even some part of Costa Chica, Mexico they do it too

what im guessing is that it came from africans who were colonized by the Portuguese and this was their way of speaking


and no, most Spanish in the Dominican republic were not Andalusian and Portuguese, in fact Portuguese were less than 1% of the Dominican republic during the colonial days
most spaniards in dominican republic were andalusians, old castilians, new castilians, leones, extremadurans

and canarians, we had alot of em

your right for most of it, remember eitherway if the portuguese were numerous at one point in DR, it was not long until they got completely deluted into the black pop and later canarians

i have to clarify that althought canarians did come in large numbers to the DR from 1680-1760, after 1760 that migration basically stopped, any one coming into the DR was in tiny waves that made no changes, during that time (the 1700s) the DR was at its whitest at 25% of the pop due to the canarians (the other 75% was mainly mulattoes and pure african slaves), however it wasnt long until the late 1700s when most whites fled the DR to mexico, venezuela, pr, cuba, etc... due to slaves revolts, haitian revolution, and constant black haitian slaves who didnt spoke any french terrorizing and invading settlements in the DR with firebottles and machetes. Ever since then the DR's white pop stayed at 10% like today and those 10-15% were r not pure white anymore.

so it is the groups that u said andalusians, old castilians, new castilians, leones, extremadurans, but aso canarians cause they contributed alot

i descent from mainly canarians from the late 18th century in the cibao region which is where im from, along with some asturian that i have from my dads side, but those came around the sametime like 300-400 years ago. and ofc my non euro blood SSA (mainly yoruba and fon) and taino

and i did remember the posts u sent me about old bozal spanish being spoken and recorded in writing from mexico, pr, and colombia i believe and they sounded like us alot

so you may be right

[Carlito's Way]

and canarians, we had alot of em

your right for most of it, remember eitherway if the portuguese were numerous at one point in DR, it was not long until they got completely deluted into the black pop and later canarians

i have to clarify that althought canarians did come in large numbers to the DR from 1680-1760, after 1760 that migration basically stopped, any one coming into the DR was in tiny waves that made no changes, during that time (the 1700s) the DR was at its whitest at 25% of the pop due to the canarians (the other 75% was mainly mulattoes and pure african slaves), however it wasnt long until the late 1700s when most whites fled the DR to mexico, venezuela, pr, cuba, etc... due to slaves revolts, haitian revolution, and constant black haitian slaves who didnt spoke any french terrorizing and invading settlements in the DR with firebottles and machetes. Ever since then the DR's white pop stayed at 10% like today and those 10-15% were r not pure white anymore.

so it is the groups that u said andalusians, old castilians, new castilians, leones, extremadurans, but aso canarians cause they contributed alot

i descent from mainly canarians from the late 18th century in the cibao region which is where im from, along with some asturian that i have from my dads side, but those came around the sametime like 300-400 years ago. and ofc my non euro blood SSA (mainly yoruba and fon) and taino

and i did remember the posts u sent me about old bozal spanish being spoken and recorded in writing from mexico, pr, and colombia i believe and they sounded like us alot

so you may be right

im speaking more about the colonial days in which canarians werent present in DR until much later, obviously their numbers grew once they started to come to latin america, most heading to the dominican republic than to puerto rico or cuba

[Dominicanese]

im speaking more about the colonial days in which canarians werent present in DR until much later, obviously their numbers grew once they started to come to latin america, most heading to the dominican republic than to puerto rico or cuba

well yeah

the canarians that came over were in no doubt hearing a people speaking bozal spanish (spanish-portuguese creole language & spanish creole) in the sugar plantations, once these ppl interacted their kids would necessarily pick up the speech of their parents first and then later on speaking or picking up the dialect and idioms from the locals speaking bozal creole, causde that is what we speak basically a canarian-bozal spanish

iv said this before on a dominican spanish thread

(check it) rural Dominican Spanish (skip to 11:20)

[alnortedelsur]

im not trolling, you are the one being upset being grouped with dominican republic
both cultures and genetics but you guys as mulatto mixes with minor amerindian, the only difference is that brazilians are whiter than dominicans
you guys along with Cubans are the only mulattoes genetically and culturally, the ones with the lowest Amerindian percentage, the only difference is the Euro % in all 3 countries, that is all

Puerto Ricans are more like the pred euro version of Venezuelans, both triracials, just that Venezuelans are balance triracials and Puerto Ricans pred euro triracials

Balanced triracial my ass. Venezuela is mestizo-leaning triracial on average (more Amerindian/Euro than SSA mixture in its whole gene pool).

Around 50-54% Euro, 30% Amerindian and 17-20% African.

You talk like if the lower class of the favelas in Caracas (ranchos) represent the full picture of the Venezuela racial make up, when they don't.

[Carlito's Way]

Balanced triracial my ass. Venezuela is mestizo-leaning triracial on average (more Amerindian/Euro than SSA mixture in its whole gene pool).

Around 50-54% Euro, 30% Amerindian and 17-20% African.

You talk like if the lower class of the favelas in Caracas (ranchos) represent the full picture of the Venezuela racial make up, when they don't.

sure keep dreaming, the people on average look less than 50-54% euro
and your figures also show that you they are triracials

[Timawa]

Well, Since Americans grow up with Latinos, they understand Spanish better. They are not good at learning another language. So, they definitely want Brazil to be a Spanish language country so they can communicate with Brazilians.