Swedish woman meets two Muslim migrants at night to prove xenophobes wrong, is brutally raped

[Rumata]

You still didn't answer my question: what would you sing to me if I lived in Switzerland??

There's a Russian saying: 'Having said 'A', say 'B' too'.
The meaning is: Don't stop developing your thought half way. What you did. The reason is quite clear though as developing this idea you'd come to something like: 'Rumata were bound to be responsible for all the generations of his ancestors and their whole societies too'. Which really wouldn't make much sense.

[Bari]

Its unfortunately another tragedy that is shattering the good nature and openness of the swedes. Most Muslim immigrants are not a problem like them. There needs to be a stricter policy torwards expelling criminals no matter what punishment awaits them back home. Had they done so years ago the situation would have been completely different.

But the Swedes keep pouring in immigrants without the means to take care of them with jobs or mental evaluations. There are MANY unemployed of immigrant descent. They should be given educated if needed and found a job thus stabilizing the situation before receiving more.

[ЛыSSый]

So, let me propose nuclear family conception is based on finno-swed rape culture when it's impossible to find or determine father. That's why finno-swed girl so hardly defend such phenomenon.

[Rumata]

What does Lavrov have to do with the discussion?

[Finnish Swede]

You still didn't answer my question: what would you sing to me if I lived in Switzerland??

Oh, sorry. Is this really that big question for you?
First I thought it was just a rhetorical question. Then I though that the answer would/should still be very clear....but I guess not.

Bit disappointed.

Okeyyy...

Sing?
I'm bad singer (absolutey northing).

Talk?
If you would hide your russian identity and pretend to be Swiss (dark hair & brown/hazel eyed)....I would probable ''sing'' you .... nothing!

But if you would expose your true nature ... same as now.

[Finnish Swede]

Both full family and good family relations are important. No talk about safety here. Being part of family relations a child naturally gets the knowledge of how the family works and what it is good for. What are the roles of the parents. How behave a man and a women in a couple. Thus it gets the idea of how to construct its own family. Of how to behave with the partner. And of how to choose the right partner for life.

''Roles'of parents'' .... oh man ...here we go again. A topic which could easiy lead some 20 pages extra discussions. What roles? Mixed roles and collective responsibilities!

Let me notice that in the case of a break up, usually, the child doesn't have a possibility to with both parents any equal time, like: 60%/40%. NO. Usually, it's like 90%/10% of time if not more inequal. And afaik in European countries it's mothers who have the privilege to get this time and manipulate with this fact all they want in the future. In Arabic countries it's probably the other way around.

Sure, so keep her happy (so that she will not end apply divorce). No cheatings etc. Doesn't matter that if business trip's one night stand did't meant anything...as it will mean for her.

I think that both parents are about equally important for a child.

Naturally. We all have rights to our opinion.

Breastfeeding is a minor thing, because:
1) it's quite short lasting (almost) always.
2) many women can't/don't feed even during that time.
3) it's not necessary although desirable.

For some it is't, for some it can be. Sorry mister, I think you are not the right person to value that.
Do you think that mother will create naturally deeper bond with the baby because of pregnancy period and as giving a birth? If yes, do you think that baby will sense that too?

No other questions.

[Rumata]

Oh, sorry. Is this really that big question for you?
First I thought it was just a rhetorical question. Then I though that the answer would/should still be very clear....but I guess not.

Bit disappointed.

Okeyyy...

Sing?
I'm bad singer (absolutey northing).

Talk?
If you would hide your russian identity and pretend to be Swiss (dark hair & brown/hazel eyed)....I would probable ''sing'' you .... nothing!

But if you would expose your true nature ... same as now.

Sure it was a serious question. And no, the answer isn't clear and you help unwillingly to make it clear.

As you mention I had to change my physical traits to change your attitude that implies pure racism from your side.

Can you make yourself clear in English just like I do??? I mean if I were a Swiss citizen critisizing your country the same way I did here, would it change your reaction?

[Rumata]

''Roles'of parents'' .... oh man ...here we go again. A topic which could easiy lead some 20 pages extra discussions. What roles? Mixed roles and collective responsibilities!

Sure, so keep her happy (so that she will not end apply divorce). No cheatings etc. Doesn't matter that if business trip's one night stand did't meant anything...as it will mean for her.

Naturally. We all have rights to our opinion.

For some it is't, for some it can be. Sorry mister, I think you are not the right person to value that.
Do you think that mother will create naturally deeper bond with the baby because of pregnancy period and as giving a birth? If yes, do you think that baby will sense that too?

No other questions.

I think that a mother would hardly develop a bond to the child that would be like 10 times deeper than than that of the father! The pregnancy and breastfeeding end but the genetic bond remains always and it's equal.
Besides, it really depends on the person. Some women just get rid of their children as soon as they are born. And there are the cases not so extreme too.

It's not the sole responsibility of the father to 'keep happy' the mother to have a proper family. The responsibility is equal.

[Finnish Swede]

Oh, lissu...these are much better

[Finnish Swede]

Can you make yourself clear in English just like I do??? I mean if I were a Swiss citizen critisizing your country the same way I did here, would it change your reaction?

If your own country works better than another, you might have some arguments to criticize it. But if your own works worse...then it would better be fix it first.... before starting to criticize others. But of course .... I'm not slavic.

Got it now?