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    Believe it or not.
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    For Love of Matter: A Contemporary Panpsychism by Freya Mathews



    Really good stuff so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soten View Post
    For Love of Matter: A Contemporary Panpsychism by Freya Mathews



    Really good stuff so far.
    Is it a systematic survey like Skrbina's or more of one focusing on Mathews' specific panpsychism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Is it a systematic survey like Skrbina's or more of one focusing on Mathews' specific panpsychism?
    Her own type of panpsychism.

    We should talk about it then. She basically enminds the entire universe as a whole and then picks out certain systems within that larger system which can be said to be subjects. So in this view the universe is a subject, people are subjects, but our little fingers are not subjects even though they are part of the human subject which is part of the universal subject. I'm waiting to see just what counts and doesn't count as subjects for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soten View Post
    Her own type of panpsychism.

    We should talk about it then. She basically enminds the entire universe as a whole and then picks out certain systems within that larger system which can be said to be subjects. So in this view the universe is a subject, people are subjects, but our little fingers are not subjects even though they are part of the human subject which is part of the universal subject. I'm waiting to see just what counts and doesn't count as subjects for her.
    Depending on how she defines subjects, I could see that making sense. I'm wondering now if she would posit individual subjects within the whole as being ontologically distinct either from each other or from the whole, and, if not, whether she's going with some kind of Peircean synechism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Depending on how she defines subjects, I could see that making sense.

    I think she is defining anything as a subject that maintains homeostasis, and has self-regulation, goal-directedness, and equifinality (not sure what that last one really means here). She also seems to put importance on "self-realization".


    I'm wondering now if she would posit individual subjects within the whole as being ontologically distinct either from each other or from the whole, and, if not, whether she's going with some kind of Peircean synechism.
    I do think that that she conceives of them as being distinct....however she does call them "secondary subjects, or centers of subjectivity". I assume the primary subject is the entirety of the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soten View Post
    I think she is defining anything as a subject that maintains homeostasis, and has self-regulation, goal-directedness, and equifinality (not sure what that last one really means here). She also seems to put importance on "self-realization".
    I think that makes sense then. Because there is, even in panpsychic terms, something very different about the way a cell is and the way a thumb is. Both are obviously parts of a whole, but the cell has an autonomy that clearly lets us see it as a subject unto itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soten
    I do think that that she conceives of them as being distinct....however she does call them "secondary subjects, or centers of subjectivity". I assume the primary subject is the entirety of the universe.
    I think I see what you mean here.

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    The great adventure by Viktor Lazic

    After 421 days of traveling, having breakfasts with Mongol tribes, lunches with pirates and dinners on the ancient Khmer ruins, Viktor Lazić has returned home to Serbia to share his adventures and achievements in a book that will soon be published.

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