U.S. Uni defends sex-toy demonstration

[SaxonCeorl]

This kind of thing should cause a steady rise in high school grades and test scores; do well in school --> go to a great university --> see live porn.

[Loddfafner]

What makes me angry is that William & Mary had to change their sports logo (they're known as "the Tribe") because it was "offensive" to the Injuns and South Carolina schools were banned from the NCAA so long as the confederate flag flew above the state capitol, but putting on a live porno is perfectly acceptable.

In my ideal university, there will be room for both rebel flags and live porno, sometimes at the same time.

[Magister Eckhart]

This kind of thing should cause a steady rise in high school grades and test scores; do well in school --> go to a great university --> see live porn.

No thanks. We have enough Negroes infesting college campuses and driving up rape rates as it is. I see no reason why we need to recruit any more apes.

[Loddfafner]

In the 1980s as AIDS started to hit, it was clear that reticence about discussing sex was interfering with the development of rational and effective strategies against the epidemic, some artists and scholars responded with a wave of deliberately lewd artwork, writing, and performance. Some was didactic and preachy but much of it was done with a sense of humor that did help break the ice and open some room for teaching people how they can protect themselves. The alternatives were moralistic judgment that only resulted in reckless sex and polite scientific discussion in latinate terms that did not get through to the masses.

Professors would pass out condoms to students and sex workers would come in as candid guest lecturers. The students would laugh but they would also think, and prepare themselves to survive on their own terms.

[Magister Eckhart]

In the 1980s as AIDS started to hit, it was clear that reticence about discussing sex was interfering with the development of rational and effective strategies against the epidemic, some artists and scholars responded with a wave of deliberately lewd artwork, writing, and performance. Some was didactic and preachy but much of it was done with a sense of humor that did help break the ice and open some room for teaching people how they can protect themselves. The alternatives were moralistic judgment that only resulted in reckless sex and polite scientific discussion in latinate terms that did not get through to the masses.

Professors would pass out condoms to students and sex workers would come in as candid guest lecturers. The students would laugh but they would also think, and prepare themselves to survive on their own terms.

Yes, and that's a lot better than teaching people self-control, restraint, and discipline. We've been down this road before, though...

You want to stop AIDS? Control venereal diseases? Control homosexuality and crack down on prostitution with more than just fines and jail time. In reality, though, let's face it: AIDS is population control, and will affect those populations most who refuse to restrain themselves sexually. Don't want to get AIDS? Don't copulate like an animal with everyone you see. Permanent marital monogamy is the best preventative measure to avoid venereal diseases, and it's a measure that has been prescribed for millennia by Christians and Germanic heathens alike (just look at what happens to the men who sleep around in the sagas).

You can harp all you want on "Christian morality", but the reality is that when you do all you're doing is using our religion as an excuse for your own base wants and the abandonment of both the discipline and self-control as well as the concept of permanent loyalty preserved by our ancestors in the practise of monogamy-- which I remind you is of European, not Jewish derivation. It is profoundly significant that Germanic men had a wife, not wives, and that they considered the lack of control of veneries as a negative social phenomenon.

There is no moral person anywhere who would endorse this filth.

[Oreka Bailoak]

The alternatives were moralistic judgment that only resulted in reckless sex and polite scientific discussion in latinate terms that did not get through to the masses.

That is the only possible alternative? Isn't it possible to live by moralistic judgement and not live recklessly?

Isn't it possible that polite discussion in sex-ed classes could teach kids what dangers exist and how to avoid them?

Quit coming up with misguided logic to create excuses.

The students would laugh but they would also think, and prepare themselves to survive on their own terms.

No actually most would probably walk out of the class and not hear any of the probably not very "good advice" the sex workers would give.

[la bombe]

Northwestern is a private school (which is part of the reason they can get away with this garbage).

My school is public and offers what is essentially a stripping class. Or ahem, "erotic dance" rather.

[Magister Eckhart]

That is the only possible alternative? Isn't it possible to live by moralistic judgement and not live recklessly?

Isn't it possible that polite discussion in sex-ed classes could teach kids what dangers exist and how to avoid them?

Quit coming up with misguided logic to create excuses.

^This

No actually most would probably walk out of the class and not hear any of the probably not very "good advice" the sex workers would give.

Hear, hear! And why are we using this nonsensical term "sex workers". Call them by their name: harlots, whores, hookers, prostitutes, women of ill-repute. We live in a society today so dominated by hyper-sexual pursuit of hedonism that we have forgotten that never, in any society anywhere were whores considered of equal standing with any other human being. They're animals that sell themselves for the hedonistic pursuit of other animals at best, and at worst are parasitic predators that destroy lives and contribute to social collapse. Whores will give a lot of advice that will advance their "business", and nothing else.

My school is public and offers what is essentially a stripping class. Or ahem, "erotic dance" rather.

I was referring to the comment about "education funding", since the government doesn't fund Northwestern.

That's really rather apalling, though, but I shouldn't be surprised. We live in a society where girls are trained to be whores instead of women.

[la bombe]

This kind of thing should cause a steady rise in high school grades and test scores; do well in school --> go to a great university --> see live porn.

I don't think this could be considered porn. Porn is a product, this apparently just involved some lady who gets off by masturbating in public.

I honestly don't even think it's that tawdry. In every other class there are visual aides, why would a class on sexuality be any different? And it's better to see a real live human being actually enjoying themselves vs. some disgusting, manufactured porno.

[Loddfafner]

Sex work is just another job, albeit one with more flexible hours and, if one is paid in cash, tax-free.