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    Short samples of standard accents, from West to East.


    Portuguese language
    [YOUTUBE]q5P2x-60KFs[/YOUTUBE]

    Castilian language
    [YOUTUBE]l-s0EuSLhvk[/YOUTUBE]

    Catalan language

    [YOUTUBE]lr9cw1v9iz4[/YOUTUBE]

    French language
    [YOUTUBE]3_Iok5d4lbE[/YOUTUBE]

    Romansh language
    [YOUTUBE]b3gnqI7GKIo[/YOUTUBE]

    Italian language
    [YOUTUBE]PznasfHTVig[/YOUTUBE]

    Romanian language
    [YOUTUBE]3ebqS-yTWQw[/YOUTUBE]
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    Trailer of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.


    Italian language
    [YOUTUBE]uj4fp_71v9U[/YOUTUBE]

    French language
    [YOUTUBE]EuThtw__ZY4[/YOUTUBE]

    Catalan language
    [YOUTUBE]eRDI8DnQlpI[/YOUTUBE]

    Castilian language

    [YOUTUBE]tAWUkjZAamk[/YOUTUBE]

    Note: Not dubbed to any other Romance languages, afaik.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    Short samples of standard accents, from West to East.


    Portuguese language
    [YOUTUBE]q5P2x-60KFs[/YOUTUBE]

    Castilian language
    [YOUTUBE]l-s0EuSLhvk[/YOUTUBE]

    Catalan language

    [YOUTUBE]lr9cw1v9iz4[/YOUTUBE]

    French language
    [YOUTUBE]3_Iok5d4lbE[/YOUTUBE]

    Romansh language
    [YOUTUBE]b3gnqI7GKIo[/YOUTUBE]

    Italian language
    [YOUTUBE]PznasfHTVig[/YOUTUBE]

    Romanian language
    [YOUTUBE]3ebqS-yTWQw[/YOUTUBE]
    Fascinating! I love this Ibex. Thank you! It's interesting how similar yet very different they all are. Of course the one I could understand was the French one and I'd say the one I could least understand (as in inablity to even pick out certain words) was Portuguese. It seemed to me that Castillian and Catalan were very similar (bear in mind I speak neither) as were Romansh and Italian (I speak neither of these either). Of course intuitively these two pairs would make sense due to each's proximity to the other. Romanian and Romansh seemed to have a similar vibe as well I think? Not sure.

    But anyway, great post! Thank you! Lovely languages all of them to be sure! I liked to rolling Rs of Catalan btw!

    I'll try to find something similar in terms of the variety of French Canadian accents, one of these days. (Unless Acadian beats me to it of course! )

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    Thanks for the comments, Aemma. I also find all languages fascinating, but I'm particularly fond of the Romance or Neolatin ones, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aemma View Post
    It seemed to me that Castillian and Catalan were very similar (bear in mind I speak neither) as were Romansh and Italian (I speak neither of these either). Of course intuitively these two pairs would make sense due to each's proximity to the other.
    Well, bear in mind that these are standard 'tv' accents. Since Catalonia is nowadays within Spain, influence of Spanish on Catalan is noticeable in intonation and rythm patterns. However, Spanish is much closer to Portuguese, while Catalan is closer to Occitan, the native language of southern France. In fact, Catalan is even closer to French and the languages of northern Italy and Switzerland in some grammar and lexical aspects, as they all form a macro-Gallic group. But it is true and logical that, phonologically speaking, Catalan sounds more Iberian while Romansh sounds more Italian.
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    In conversation:


    Galicians
    [YOUTUBE]J3hnZ0FnE_c[/YOUTUBE]

    Grison Swiss
    [YOUTUBE]f16nn6fh3y0[/YOUTUBE]

    Sardinians
    [YOUTUBE]fCZcq-Kf-EA[/YOUTUBE]

    Arpitans (Border between France, Switzerland & Italy)
    [YOUTUBE]BQvmdLVQPdM[/YOUTUBE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    Thanks for the comments, Aemma. I also find all languages fascinating, but I'm particularly fond of the Romance or Neolatin ones, of course.



    Well, bear in mind that these are standard 'tv' accents. Since Catalonia is nowadays within Spain, influence of Spanish on Catalan is noticeable in intonation and rythm patterns. However, Spanish is much closer to Portuguese, while Catalan is closer to Occitan, the native language of southern France. In fact, Catalan is even closer to French and the languages of northern Italy and Switzerland in some grammar and lexical aspects, as they all form a macro-Gallic group. But it is true and logical that, phonologically speaking, Catalan sounds more Iberian while Romansh sounds more Italian.
    Thanks for this Ibex.

    Question: The French tv reporter I understand she probably speaks "the national language" but how different is Occitan in sound to that which we heard?

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    You should post some videos of Astur-Leonese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorri Matxino View Post
    You should post some videos of Astur-Leonese.
    Yes and some other romance dialects if you would like. I'd love to hear them! I have no idea what Astur-Leonese is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemma View Post
    I have no idea what Astur-Leonese is!
    Introduction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asturleonese

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemma View Post
    Question: The French tv reporter I understand she probably speaks "the national language" but how different is Occitan in sound to that which we heard?
    To be honest, Occitan sounds to me like very old distorted Catalan spoken by a French person.

    [YOUTUBE]oNqYMnFtb7Q[/YOUTUBE]

    But it's the language of the troubadours, and I consider them our northern brothers.

    The Occitan anthem is 90% understandable to any Catalan, for instance.

    [YOUTUBE]8YTkzUOG2ao[/YOUTUBE]

    Occitan is not official in France or Italy, but it is official in the north-western corner of Catalonia, in its Gascon dialect.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gorri Matxino View Post
    You should post some videos of Astur-Leonese.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aemma View Post
    Yes and some other romance dialects if you would like. I'd love to hear them! I have no idea what Astur-Leonese is!
    Asturleonese is one of the six Romance languages in Spain. In between Portuguese and Spanish.



    A woman reciting in Western Asturian. The boy speaks central/standard, I think.
    [YOUTUBE]fBcuJ6in6fM[/YOUTUBE]

    This woman presents in a more standard one the song Dios te llibre de Castiella, God free you from Castile.
    [YOUTUBE]5oLsYKTwqQQ[/YOUTUBE]
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