The Suicide of Europe

[Alessio]

Francophone politicians we can't even punish electorally.

But true. In Antwerp when you go to Hoboken or Borgerhout there's garbage all over the street. Ekeren, where I live is like 95% European and very tidy, even in working class parts.

Cultural differences and alienation (though many Moroccans bash their own country for the 'mess' it is)

Even more so than in the Netherlands so I've heard. Perhaps it needs time or better said ''generations'' for this to problem become any better. The only true remedy seems to divide them among the native population and eventually force them to marry Belgian women, only I don't know if that's realistic and preferable instead of forcing a social/-cultural program onto their offspring through education. Either way it'd be better for everyone if they're being effectively integrated into society, although I'm a supporter of maintaining culture and identity. Best thing would be to make a significant portion leave to their country of origins.

[Mary]

Moscow safer? Wow so things are really bad in Antwerp.

I don't know about Belgium. But Sweden definitely.

[Dandelion]

Even more so than in the Netherlands so I've heard. Perhaps it needs time or better said ''generations'' for this to problem become any better. The only true remedy seems to divide them among the native population and eventually force them to marry Belgian women, only I don't know if that's realistic and preferable instead of forcing a social program onto their offspring through education. Either way it'd be better for everyone if they're going to integrate, although I'm a supporter of maintaining culture and identity.

Offer muslims 'our' women. Worst idea ever. But they should mix with us ideally instead of isolate themselves, but only after they assimilate better, otherwise you end up with half-Maghreb children with Islam as religion. You even specified Belgian women as if Maghrebi ones are off limits for us.

But better yet is for the ones that never will assimilate (some are allowed to stay still) to leave and for our border to be shut for newer immigrants and for illegals to be deported without too much hesitation.

[Sp_loa]

Even more so than in the Netherlands so I've heard. Perhaps it needs time or better said ''generations'' for this to problem become any better. The only true remedy seems to divide them among the native population and eventually force them to marry Belgian women, only I don't know if that's realistic and preferable instead of forcing a social program onto their offspring through education. Either way it'd be better for everyone if they're going to integrate, although I'm a supporter of maintaining culture and identity.

"force them to marry Belgian women". Poor are those women . I don't know how it is in Belgium but here in many cases non muslim wives to muslim husbands are de facto Slaves.

[Mary]

"force them to marry Belgian women". Poor are those women . I don't know how it is in Belgium but here in many cases non muslim wives to muslim husbands are de facto Slaves.

1) No they're not, don't be a White Knight.

2) Muslim men pay a premium for White women in terms of providing and treating them we'll, and White women know this.

3) In practically all cases the Muslim is a decent man, and the woman is a trash bitch.

[Alessio]

Every great civilization will eventually come to an end and the West is signaling it's first symptoms of decline through moral relativism; lossed sense of core values, typical of European civilization, also called ''cultural collapse''; the elimination of obvious realities such as the differences in gender and what their roles in society are; public sexual immorality through television and art; soulless, shallow art; an overloaded elite class with too much capital and power.

[Dandelion]

Every great civilization will eventually come to an end and the West is signaling it's first symptoms of decline through moral relativism; lossed sense of core values, typical of European civilization, also called ''cultural collapse''; the elimination of obvious realities such as the differences in gender and what their roles in society are; public sexual immorality through television and art; soulless, shallow art; an overloaded elite class with too much capital and power.

Might be true. However talking about it in a defaitist tone can add to making it a 'self-fulfilling prophecy'. Fact remain Islam itself neither is a great civilisation, but it holds up the veneer of clinging to tradition more.

[Alessio]

Might be true. However talking about it in a defaitist tone can add to making it a 'self-fulfilling prophecy'. Fact remain Islam itself neither is a great civilisation, but it holds up the veneer of clinging to tradition more.

I want to exclude the backwaters (periphial areas) of Europe though as they're still very traditional and are less influenced by this phenomenon.
Sure, however I do believe the West is in decline and has stopped believing in itself. In Southern Italy sense of tradition is still strong as well, as family values and many aspects of this thing called ''modernity'' have been ignored although there are also negative side effects of this visible in it's society not to mention it's best regions being used as a dumping ground for the industries of the north.

[Alessio]

Here another video for the masses:

[jackrussell]

No. Mass migration is undesirable in any sense.

It is inevitable part of Human History ; Exodus , the movement of the people .

It's natural part of human nature to migrate .