Dutch are by far the tallest Europeans

[cosmoo]

Škutori are not my idols, maybe they are your idols?
In the hate towards the Serbs Cetinje is same as Čapljina, Posušje and Široki Brijeg.
When you took Catholic religion you will be same as Škutori, now you are almost same.

Your idols are Sekula Drljević and Savić Marković Štedimlija, is not it?

The obsession and jealousy your kin has regarding Montenegrins is legendary.

@ Cocoa Tea

Dutch tallness is recent. 200 years ago they were below European average.
Dutch grew in the last few decades or 100 years due to nutrition.

South Slavs (especially from Dinaric Alps) were tall for centuries. Many centuries ago to 60-70 years ago people in Herzegovina, Dalmatia and Montenegro were starving.

Dutchmen were not "below European average", they were still somewhat tall-ish, but not among the tallest for sure. Serbia Proper also experienced similar growth spurt - between the two world wars, average height was around 168cm, only to go up to 182cm (full 14cm) in modern times. Same goes for most of the other European nations, only Montenegro has experienced a very weak spurt of just 6cm on average.

The height in pre-industrial age would go something like this:
1. Montenegro, nearby part of Herzegovina;
2. Rest of the Dinaric Alps + unadmixed Native Americans of Great Plains (Cheyennes for example stood as tall as 176cm on average in the late 19th century, therefore if we count them as people, they are second only to Montenegrins);
3. Some NW Europeans (Icelanders were the tallest among those).

[Jackson78]

Montenegro was tallest country in the world at the beginning of 20th century (people from Durmitor and Drobnjak area, Nikšić and Cetinje were tallest Montenegrins back then). I think it is same today, their average is probably bigger than 183 cm because the height research was done in Podgorica, and is the representative only for eastern Montenegro (although the people from eastern Montenegro are above European average as well). The average height in central and western Montenegro (in places like Nikšić, Pljevlja and Kolašin) is probably over 6 ft 1.

[Jackson78]

The obsession and jealousy your kin has regarding Montenegrins is legendary.


Dutchmen were not "below European average", they were still somewhat tall-ish, but not among the tallest for sure. Serbia Proper also experienced similar growth spurt - between the two world wars, average height was around 168cm, only to go up to 182cm (full 14cm) in modern times. Same goes for most of the other European nations, only Montenegro has experienced a very weak spurt of just 6cm on average.

The height in pre-industrial age would go something like this:
1. Montenegro, nearby part of Herzegovina;
2. Rest of the Dinaric Alps + unadmixed Native Americans of Great Plains (Cheyennes for example stood as tall as 176cm on average in the late 19th century, therefore if we count them as people, they are second only to Montenegrins);
3. Some NW Europeans (Icelanders were the tallest among those).

True, but i think that in Serbia people from southern and eastern Serbia contributed to 168 cm height on average at the end of the research. People from western and central Serbia were probably 171-2 cm on average back then.

[Jackson78]

Lol, only somebody who knows nothing about area can call lumping Dalmatia and Herzegovina idiotic.

It is the same thing man, only politically divided. Dalmatia is the coastline of Herzegovina.

Majority of Dalmatians have ancestry from Herzegovina, from Ottoman time migrations.

It has same climate, same people, and same genetics. Only Herzegovina is less admixed because it was isolated.

Bosnia is completely different thing with completely different climate and different regional looks.

Herzegovina and Bosnia have natural Barriers in Mountain chains and They never Had much Communications.

People of Herzegovina are closer to people of Dalmatia than to people of Bosnia, because They are
Of the same stock. Bosnia is more like Central Croatia or Western Serbia than like Herzegovina (migrations aside)

Western Herzegovina is closer Dalmatia, but eastern Herzegovina is more closer to western Serbia, Bosnia and western Montenegro, in every sense.

[Jana]

Western Herzegovina is closer Dalmatia, but eastern Herzegovina is more closer to western Serbia, Bosnia and western Montenegro, in every sense.

That's true.

But to Clarify, I Had more geography in mind than ethnic origins.
Even eastern Herzegovina is extremely close to Dalmatia, Trebinje is practically background of Dubrovnik.

People from Western Serbia have ancestry from east Herzegovina and Montenegro, but region physically resemble more Bosnia than Herzegovina. Lika too.

I find interesting division on Cold, Forested Bosnia, central Croatia and Western Serbia, and hot, barren Dalmatia and Herzegovina, despite both are dinaric region.

[Jackson78]

That's true.

But to Clarify, I Had more geography in mind than ethnic origins.
Even eastern Herzegovina is extremely close to Dalmatia, Trebinje is practically background of Dubrovnik.

People from Western Serbia have ancestry from east Herzegovina and Montenegro, but region physically resemble more Bosnia than Herzegovina. Lika too.

I find interesting division on Cold, Forested Bosnia, central Croatia and Western Serbia, and hot, barren Dalmatia and Herzegovina, despite both are dinaric region.

Yeah, something like that.

[HELLBANIAN]

you have to input your height on a passport?

You don't input your height btw, they measure you and put it into your new passport . I am roughly 190cm - 191cm barefoot .. maybe 190.5 would be more correct. Europeans are getting freakish tall so it isn't that tall anymore.