I2a1b-CTS10228 Rurikids

[Dandelion]

Europe used to be predestined to be dominated by Finno-Ugrics, until those perfidious Indo-Europeans got in-between. Hungarians as Finno-Ugrics did their fair share of oppressing Indo-European speakers, regardless.

[Harkonnen]

What can i do? That's my job.

Oh mygod you people are unbelievable

I'm so much entertained.

[Pribislav]

Yeah i know Boris Tadić. Not a significant president of Serbia surely.

He has a Montenegrin origin.
Montenegro is stronghold of exotic haplogroups in the Balkans such as N2-Y6503, Q-Y2209, L-M349, J2a-M92... There is more haplogroups in Montenegro than in Brazil.

[Pribislav]

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[Harkonnen]

N1c1 never ruled anyone on Balkans. It was always a great minority on the Balkans. And if you are so convinced that N1c1 is "best race", then say me which one great Empire was ruled by N1c1 man?

Russia under Rurikids (proper N1c1 Rurikids) was greatest Empire ever created by man.

Jagelloonians were once Kings of Serbia, Bulgaria, Croatia etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagiellonian_dynasty

N1c1 ruled Balkanites. Fact.

[Harkonnen]

At one point, the Jagiellonians established dynastic control also over the kingdoms of Bohemia and Hungary (from 1490 onwards), with Vladislaus Jagiello whom several history books call Vladisla(u)s II. After being elected and crowned King of Hungary, Vladislaus moved his court to Hungary from where he ruled both countries and his children were born and raised. By Louis' sudden death in Battle of Mohács in 1526, that royal line was extinguished in male line.

N1c1 Kings of Croatia. Robocunts peasant ancestors bowed to these men:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_II_of_Hungary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislaus_II_of_Hungary

[cosmoo]

He has a Montenegrin origin.
Montenegro is stronghold of exotic haplogroups in the Balkans such as N2-Y6503, Q-Y2209, L-M349, J2a-M92... There is more haplogroups in Montenegro than in Brazil.

All of which exist in surrounding lands and do not make up over 4% even when they are all taken into account together, what makes them apparent is clan system. I've explained this several times over to you, dimwit.
And J2a-M92 can not be classed as "exotic" at all.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Russia under Rurikids (proper N1c1 Rurikids) was greatest Empire ever created by man.

Jagelloonians were once Kings of Serbia, Bulgaria, Croatia etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagiellonian_dynasty

N1c1 ruled Balkanites. Fact.

Ivan Grozny just established the Russian Empire, which will be later RISED under the Peter the Great and later Romanovs.

Jagiellonians ruled just part of those countries, and those are not big parts:



Angry Pukki, angry Pukki

[Pribislav]

All of which exist in surrounding lands and do not make up over 4% even when they are all taken into account together, what makes them apparent is clan system. I've explained this several times over to you, dimwit.
And J2a-M92 can not be classed as "exotic" at all.

Albanians also have tribal system and they don't have so much haplogroups as Montenegrins.
Majority of Montenegrin tribes have more than 1 haplogroups, mostly 2 or 3, and some tribes even more like Paštrovići who have 5-6 haplogroups.
Btw only Montenegrins and Albanians have real tribal system in Europe. Scottish clans are something different from Montenegrin/Albanian tribes.

[cosmoo]

Albanians also have tribal system and they don't have so much haplogroups as Montenegrins.
Majority of Montenegrin tribes have more than 1 haplogroups, mostly 2 or 3, and some tribes even more like Paštrovići who have 5-6 haplogroups.
Btw only Montenegrins and Albanians have real tribal system in Europe. Scottish clans are somrthing different from Montenegrin/Albanian tribes.

Do not take Albanians as attempt of an example. Every European country has haplogroups unusual for its position - in Norway you can find G2a, E1b, Q, and even A haplogroup, whose bearers are ethnic Norwegians - yet they are stasticially insignificant. Same goes for Montenegro, what makes those haplogroups apparent is that you can eventually tie every haplogroup to a specific clan.
And clans which have several haplogroups know of their heterogenity very well, as there are several types of clans, i.e. those who are united by common paternal ancestry (Vasojević, Drobnjak, Bratonožići, Kuči, Ozrinići, etc.), or those who formed by several separate brotherhoods uniting (Cuce, Uskoci, etc.).