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    Just a reminder:

    APRICITY IS NOT A SCHOOLYARD!

    Those who constantly peck at each other's ethnicities just make their own look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radojica View Post
    How many of them are made by you? 2. Others are against Serbia and Serbs.
    Wrong

    Go check the Albanian section yourself.

    Your whole history is a lie to begin with one
    Do you have any source for this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo View Post
    During the Middle Ages, half the population of present day Albania was Slavic. Because of their quicker birthrate, they quickly overwhelmed the Slavs and altered Albania’s demographics. Later on, the new Albanian Muslim ruling class was easier on the Albanian Christians but the Slav Christians were forced to assimilate. The Christian Slav first became a Muslim convert and his children, sent to Albanian madrassas would quickly become Albanian speakers. This was the same process by which southern Serbia was colonized in Ottoman Times.
    Do you have a source for any of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    Wrong

    Go check the Albanian section yourself.
    I just did. 2 for English readers and 2 for Albanian ones

    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    Do you have any source for this?
    Do you have a source that Albanians are the one and truly descendants of Illyrians hence have the right to claim half of Balkan Peninsula?

    When you give me reliable evidence that you are, I'll be the first to congratulate you, but until that moment happen I will keep telling that your history is a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post

    Do you have a source for any of this?
    Albanian Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli who also said that Albanian chauvinism towards their neighbors is based on historical falsifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radojica View Post
    I just did. 2 for English readers and 2 for Albanian ones
    Wrong again, 7 threads are started by me who have to do with our history/culture/tradition.


    Do you have a source that Albanians are the one and truly descendants of Illyrians hence have the right to claim half of Balkan Peninsula?

    When you give me reliable evidence that you are, I'll be the first to congratulate you, but until that moment happen I will keep telling that your history is a lie.
    As i have said many many(and again, many many) times now, it is proven that we are indigenous in Balkan, but its still being discussed from what ancient balkan people we are descendants of, ie if it is Illyrians, Thracians or Dacians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forget Me Not View Post
    I was reading up on Shiptar history one night and one thing that really struck me... that Shiptars have never fought Serbs during the medieval period and Albania was made part of the Serbian Empire easily without much resistance... maybe because Shiptars never had a national consciousness like they do today back then?
    Wrong

    Skanderbeg, with his troops, fought against Serbs in middle ages, thus fights have happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo View Post
    Albanian Professor Dr. Kaplan Resuli who also said that Albanian chauvinism towards their neighbors is based on historical falsifications.
    First of all, his name is "Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich"()

    And i do not accept partial sources, be it Serbian or Albanian. But above all, i have already provided impartial academic sources contradicting his statements.

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    Here are just a few Albanian researchers that dispute the Illyrian claim:Kaplan Resuli, Adrian Qosi, Fatos Lubonja, Adrian Vebiu.

    Kaplan Resuli:

    The primary motive that inspired me to oppose the albanian pseudo science about their illyrian origin was the truth, the love for the truth, my special inclination towards it, but second and equally as important motive was the fact that, watching the Albanians being breast-fed with chauvinism and racism, are being encouraged to fight their neighbouring peoples (nations), I was hoping that if the truth is explained to them, they will move away from the tales, legends and myths about their autochthony and illyromania, thus ceasing with their inexcusable and baseless hatred towards their neighbors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    As i have said many many(and again, many many) times now, it is proven that we are indigenous in Balkan, but its still being discussed from what ancient balkan people we are descendants of, ie if it is Illyrians, Thracians or Dacians.
    Or Greeks, for that matter. My guess? A combination of several of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo View Post
    Here are just a few Albanian researchers that dispute the Illyrian claim:Kaplan Resuli, Adrian Qosi, Fatos Lubonja, Adrian Vebiu.
    So you try to prove your little theory with a partial source wich suggest that the albanian-illyrian connection is false, because(according to him) Albanians are nationalistic? you truly deserve this one:

    Lets look at REAL impartial academic studies:


    http://books.google.com/books?id=5pC...page&q&f=false
    Last edited by Ushtari; 04-14-2011 at 06:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Or Greeks, for that matter. My guess? A combination of several of them.
    According to most historians/linguists, the home of the Albanians is considered to be Northern-Albania, stretching to Nish(in modern Serbia). In this particular area, illyrians where dominating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    According to most historians/linguists, the home of the Albanians is considered to be Northern-Albania, stretching to Nish(in modern Serbia). In this particular area, illyrians where dominating.
    Have any genetic studies been done on Albanians yet? If so, I would be appreciative if you could point me to them.
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