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    A litany of pure idiocy: the police should never have removed that flag, the daft fool should never have turned a gun on the police and they shouldn't have made him a martyr (some lead in the hip and a guarded hospital room would have done just nicely). Now the Albanian police made sure that their government is viewed by the whole village (and probably even the region if also majority Greek) as occupiers to be fought with lead (for desecrating their graves (by removing a flag) and killing a local and the fool himself as a martyr.

    In the early 20th century, Marechaussees (military police) from Holland (how tone-deaf could one be !) were often posted in border regions in both South and East and they were considered bird free by a population that viewed them in much the same light - as they later viewed the Germans. I think the Albanian government may have made a very similar mistake here.... (judging from the police's tone deaf actions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    A litany of pure idiocy: the police should never have removed that flag, the daft fool should never have turned a gun on the police and they shouldn't have made him a martyr (some lead in the hip and a guarded hospital room would have done just nicely). Now the Albanian police made sure that their government is viewed by the whole village (and probably even the region if also majority Greek) as occupiers to be fought with lead (for desecrating their graves (by removing a flag) and killing a local and the fool himself as a martyr.

    In the early 20th century, Marechaussees (military police) from Holland (how tone-deaf could one be !) were often posted in border regions in both South and East and they were considered bird free by a population that viewed them in much the same light - as they later viewed the Germans. I think the Albanian government may have made a very similar mistake here.... (judging from the police's tone deaf actions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Why do you have a German permission group if you're Dutch?

    That would be like me using a Canadian permission group
    Why don't you focus on your own stuff and leave the intricacies of European ethnic identities to Europeans ? Keep your nose out.



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    Very stupid way for someone to lose his life,sad,very sad because he was a young man,only 35 years old.

    The Greek character of North Epirus has traditionally been very strong,the Greek army liberated 3 times this region,but since the Great Powers gave it to Albania,there is nothing we can do.

    Unfortunately,fantasies kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgia View Post
    Very stupid way for someone to lose his life,sad,very sad because he was a young man,only 35 years old.

    The Greek character of North Epirus has traditionally been very strong,the Greek army liberated 3 times this region,but since the Great Powers gave it to Albania,there is nothing we can do.

    Unfortunately,fantasies kill.
    He could have avoided it very easily. The very south of Albania, or north Epirus, still has an Albanian majority and not a Greek one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    He could have avoided it very easily. The very south of Albania, or north Epirus, still has an Albanian majority and not a Greek one.
    In any case,we don’t live in 1940,the borders are what they are,and we should respect it,playing the war heroes in time of peace is pure idiocy.

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    Golden Gypsy came many times in Albania to commemorate their soldiers but never opened fires, and nothing happened to them so why this propaganda about being killed for a Greek flag. It's not true.

    Well done RENEA special forces.

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    Reports seem to be saying that he was planning an attack on the Albanian police. He had sent messages to Rama on the 28th. He doesn’t seem so innocent
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

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    Typical Epirot highlander mad bastard. He is martyred now. Thanks!
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    http://www.ekathimerini.com/234093/a...greeks-killing

    Protesters gather outside Albanian Embassy in Athens over ethnic Greek's killing



    Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Albanian Embassy in the northern Athens suburb of Filothei on Sunday evening to protest the killing earlier in the day of an ethnic Greek man in the village of Bularat, some 6 kilometers from Albania's border with Greece, earlier in the day.

    Traffic was backed up on Kifissias Avenue due to the protest, which was organized via social media by Greek-Albanian groups and the far-right Golden Dawn party.

    Konstantinos Kacifa (Katsifas in Greek), 35, was killed after reportedly opening fire against officers with a Kalashnikov assault rifle as they were taking down a Greek flag he had raised at a cemetery for Greek soldiers who died in battle. The incident took place as the village marked the anniversary of Greece's entry into the war in 1940.

    The Greek Foreign Ministry issued a statement after Kacifa's killing was confirmed, calling on Albanian authorities to investigate the incident thoroughly.

    Kacifa, whose family hailed from the northwestern Greek town of Ioannina, was born and grew up in Bularat but had been living in Athens recently, according to reports.

    Photographs from social media show him dressed in military-style clothes, with a Greek flag patch on his arm. Reports have also suggested that he fostered extreme nationalist sympathies.

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