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    I hope this did not happen. It would be very disrespectful and the Polish would be speaking German if not for the Soviets.

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160...orical-memory/

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    Communism is a totalitarian system prohibited by the Article 256 of the Polish law. I'm more of a russophile than a russophobe, but Russians just have to accept our law and that the Red Army, which enforced their bolshevism, cannot be glorified in Poland.

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    There should be nothing to remind people of communism/socialism and communists or socialists. They ought to be un-personed and churches ought to be erected at the sites of the memorial.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Communism is a totalitarian system prohibited by the Article 256 of the Polish law. I'm more of a russophile than a russophobe, but Russians just have to accept our law and that the Red Army, which enforced their bolshevism, cannot be glorified in Poland.
    You would not even be a nation today if not for the Soviet Army. You would also not have your culture preserved without their occupation of 50 years. The fact is these monuments honor the fallen and those who sacrificed for Poland not some perished ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    You would not even be a nation today if not for the Soviet Army. You would also not have your culture preserved without their occupation of 50 years. The fact is these monuments honor the fallen and those who sacrificed for Poland not some perished ideology.
    Actually, Poland would be a nation today even more if it hadn't been for the Soviet Army.
    How so? It's simple:
    Soviet Union supported Germans in their war from the very first day (1st September), and on the 17th september invaded Poland, preventing the Polish army from establishing a new defensive line on Vistula and San rivers. Without the Soviet help, Germany would not be able to take over the entire Poland and would eventually run out of necessary materials, becoming more prone to and Allied offensive (which would be inevitable in that case).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Actually, Poland would be a nation today even more if it hadn't been for the Soviet Army.
    How so? It's simple:
    Soviet Union supported Germans in their war from the very first day (1st September), and on the 17th september invaded Poland, preventing the Polish army from establishing a new defensive line on Vistula and San rivers. Without the Soviet help, Germany would not be able to take over the entire Poland and would eventually run out of necessary materials, becoming more prone to and Allied offensive (which would be inevitable in that case).
    Hmmmm. Maybe. Maybe not. Poland usually does not lose wars unless greatly outnumbered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Communism is a totalitarian system prohibited by the Article 256 of the Polish law. I'm more of a russophile than a russophobe, but Russians just have to accept our law and that the Red Army, which enforced their bolshevism, cannot be glorified in Poland.
    I'm completely against Communism but this is a part of Polish history. Let it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grenzland View Post
    I'm completely against Communism but this is a part of Polish history. Let it be.
    What do you think of Soviet memorials in Germany? I was surprised to see them extremly well-kept, in Berlin atleast. They were in much better condition than most are even in Saint-Petersburg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    What do you think of Soviet memorials in Germany? I was surprised to see them extremly well-kept, in Berlin atleast. They were in much better condition than most are even in Saint-Petersburg.
    Like in Poland it is part of our history.

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    simply you don't know how it works in the east, even in Poland, if there is a small evidence Schwerin was Zwierzyn - belongs to Poland, soviet monument in Karl-Marx-Stadt, 'pardon' Chemnitz, Soviets can return anytime, no facts - no claims

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