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    Default What is the difference between west-baltid and faelid?

    I got this problem after reading a classify thread on AS: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anth...-t-t28895.html
    So basically this is about a lithuanian model with square face. Here are some pictures of her face








    In the above thread, many people classify her as west baltid+nordid. But I found her very faelid
    look because of the square face and quite sharp jawline. I would classify her as faelid + nordid.
    Then I search more about related threads, find that many people are confused about these two types as well.
    So what's difference between these two since both types have wide and square face with sharp jawline?
    Is it that:
    w-baltid = broad square face + easter european look
    while
    faelid = broad square face + weter european look?
    If thats the case, then what exactly is the difference between eastern and wetern look when you exclude the consideration of facial shape?
    For this lithuanian model, what traits of her do you find very eastern?

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    West-Baltid is brachycephalic, Faelid is mesocephalic or dolichocephalic.

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    Don't bother, Internet West-Baltid does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurogoy View Post
    West-Baltid is brachycephalic, Faelid is mesocephalic or dolichocephalic.
    well then how do you distinguish wbaltid+nordid and faelid+nordid, both can be mesocephalic or dolichocephalic.
    And how would you classify this lithuanian model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    Don't bother, Internet West-Baltid does not exist.
    West baltid is faelid+baltid

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    Quote Originally Posted by bimf View Post
    well then how do you distinguish wbaltid+nordid and faelid+nordid, both can be mesocephalic or dolichocephalic.
    And how would you classify this lithuanian model?
    Both "wbaltid+nordid" and "faelid+nordid" can be classified as Tronder.

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    I'd classify her as Faelid proper. Her features aren't soft enough to consider baltid influence.

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    Those Western and Eastern European look things are absolutely subjective most of the time and often pure bullshit, since several components of Europeans' genetic and phenotypical makeup (WHG, Mediterranean, Nordic, Dinaric, etc.) are present in both Western and Eastern Europe.
    Dalofaelid is an unmixed Cromagnid.
    So-called West Baltid is a reduced (more often through baltization than alpinization) Cromagnid which can be either Faelid or the rare nowadays East Cromagnid.
    Cephalic index makes some difference but not a solid one, especially if we talk about females, because women have a higher upper border of mesocephaly. Everything > 81 (some sources even say > 80) counts as brachycephalic among men, while females with a cephalic index of 83 are still considered meso. It's a part of natural variation and differences between sexes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalic_index
    A rounder and flatter forehead would be an indication of Baltid influence among Cro-Magnon types, as well as less pronounced gonial angles and rounder cheekbones (in contrast to the more pronounced ones Upper Paleolithic types show to one or another extent).
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    This woman looks Nordo-Faelid and I would place her in Tronder category.
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    She's not Baltid, people just automatically say that because they read she's Lithuanian

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