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    Quote Originally Posted by Saruman View Post
    It's a small base for their 500 strong contingent. Camp Bondsteel is much larger though.
    Yeah, I have family that lives quite close to Camp Bondsteel actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saruman View Post
    I don't think it would be sold, just "given" according to these reports.
    And what does "given" mean, if it doesn't mean sold? If the Turks are involved, it will only be through the agreement of NATO. The U.S. could not unilaterally hand this base over to the Turks. That's why I think the reports are garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    While more and more are leaving kosova, turks coming there seems very unlikely.
    It is unlikely that KFOR numbers are to drop below certain level for various reasons. Serbian army is considerably stronger than Kosovo Security Force and if KFOR departed it would leave Albanians there vulnerable. So KFOR is probably to remain on a certain level, and as other countries withdraw their forces, Turks can replace them, eventually having a free hand. It is in Turkey's strategic interest to be present on Kosovo and balkans, this is what their ideologues desire and I bet they are willing to invest their economic and even military resources.
    If true this would represent a golden opportunity for Turkey to advance it's strategic objectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saruman View Post
    It is unlikely that KFOR numbers are to drop below certain level for various reasons. Serbian army is considerably stronger than Kosovo Security Force and if KFOR departed it would leave Albanians there vulnerable. So KFOR is probably to remain on a certain level, and as other countries withdraw their forces, Turks can replace them, eventually having a free hand. It is in Turkey's strategic interest to be present on Kosovo and balkans, this is what their ideologues desire and I bet they are willing to invest their economic and even military resources.
    If true this would represent a golden opportunity for Turkey to advance it's strategic objectives.
    While i agree that NATO will be present with a certain amount of soldiers, i highly doubt Serbia is that stupid to risk be bombed back to the stone age again. There will not be any more war, attacking Kosova means attack Albania, and attacking Albania means attacking Nato, and attacking nato means big problem for Serbia. When kosova have all the needed recognitions, it will merge with its mother(Albania), and once that is done, there is no more Turkish or Slavic interfering.

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    When kosova have all the needed recognitions, it will merge with its mother(Albania), and once that is done, there is no more Turkish interfering.
    Aha. Now we know what really was the case. Now we know why European boys had to kill European boys.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroAmerican View Post
    And what does "given" mean, if it doesn't mean sold?
    Probably just withdrawing for the remaining US troops, Turkey to compensate, then as others depart, Turkey to compensate again.. Lets face it many countries want out, Turks are one of few that want in.
    Then interesting would be whether Germany, Italy etc. keep their contingents there in order to prevent KFOR from becoming an essentially Turkish force.


    Quote Originally Posted by EuroAmerican View Post
    If the Turks are involved, it will only be through the agreement of NATO. The U.S. could not unilaterally hand this base over to the Turks. That's why I think the reports are garbage.
    Politics is above formalities usually, formalities can be made to suite current political environment.

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    Turkey was always an important ally of the USA and Israel since World War 2 and they were even independent and strong enough to actually NEGOTIATE about their interests! Always!

    They gained influence, cheap credits and money, even interfered in the migration policy of European nations, especially Germany and the US has to offer them an alternative for their financing: The European Union.

    That's what it is all about, the US and Jews negotiating with the Turks, and the Turks, because they are more independent and not as brainwashed, get their share - Europeans have to pay it, directly and indirectly, in MANY WAYS, from getting the worst biosocial elements from Turkey, losing influence, being Islamicised and getting Turkish genes and memes, largely (if ignoring Kebab probably) unwanted by our people, and having to work and pay for all that crap, but shut up!

    This really shows the difference between the broken Germany and Turkey - Germany would have had much more to say, if looking at what it achieved and produced for the Western alliance, but oh well, they had no independent spiritual elite.

    Now the Turks might have often not the best elite thinkable, for sure not, especially not with these new Islamists, but still, they are at least THEIR leaders and THEIR people, more independent than what most Europeans have, so they can protect their interests.

    Despite some rumours about Turkish freemasons and crypto-Jews blabla, the reality speaks for itself, Turkey is a winner in this game, the European nations are the losers, with the USA and Israel-Jews forcing the Europeans to accept that horrible deal, even letting them in the organisation which will become a caricature of an "European" Union...

    I don't even blame the Turks as much, because they just look up for THEIR INTERESTS, which is absolutely natural and, if they don't go to far, ok.

    It is about us that we have to DEFEND OUR INTERESTS and the USA and Jews interfering, manipulating this corrupted puppets which are "European political leaders..."

    That Turkey gets in the "European Union" and paid by Europe is part of the deal with the USA and Israel, be sure about that.

    Because the USA don't have to pay them then - most came from Europe directly and indirectly anyway and they are still on their side largely, needed as an ally at the borders of South Eastern Europe, Eastern Europe and the Middle East...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saruman View Post
    If true this would represent a golden opportunity for Turkey to advance it's strategic objectives.
    It at the very least provides them the opportunity to take control of the KFOR operation. And in the long run potentially gain possession of the base completely with the support of the local government. Who want to continue their presence as a form of protection against Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Typical. America selling Europe to the Turks. It's almost like it was planned all along.
    So America has sold Europe to the Turks before then?

    I seem to recall a certain renegade state that took aid from the Turks to break away from another state, thus enhancing Ottoman power in the West, and I seem to recall it not being the US.

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    To hell with you, Joe. You know what I am talking about: NATO helping the Bosnian Mudjaheddeen and the Kosovars. And we received more help from the English and French btw but that's something you wouldn't know about. Not one Turk died fighting here in our provinces and real diplomatic contact was established in 1609. Countless English and French did fight and die here.



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