Police: Young son intentionally shot white supremacist leader; motive unclear

[Bloodeagle]

Police: Young son intentionally shot white supremacist leader; motive unclear

May 3, 2011 | 7:56 am


Police are trying to make sense of the shooting death Sunday of a well-known white-supremacist leader, allegedly at the hands of his young son.
Authorities believe the boy, whose age was not released, did not shoot his father by accident.
"We believe it was an intentional act,'' said Riverside police Lt. Ed Blevins.
Officials have not speculated about a possible motive.
Jeff Russell Hall, 32, was Southwestern regional director of the National Socialist Movement, a neo-Nazi group based in Detroit. Police were called to his home at 4:04 a.m. Sunday and found a badly injured Hall lying on a couch.
Paramedics attempted to revive Hall, but he died at the scene, Blevins said. After interviewing Hall's wife and five children, police booked a minor son on a homicide charge, he said.

The boy was booked into Riverside County Juvenile Hall. Riverside County prosecutors are reviewing the case, Blevins said.
Hall's other children were taken into protective custody, he said. A neighbor told the Press-Enterprise that all of the couple's children are under the age of 12.
Another neighbor told the paper that the family could be intimidating, noting that at a recent Halloween party, they flew a swastika flag and guests wore KKK hoods.
Hall, a plumber, gained attention last year in his failed attempt to win a seat on an obscure water board in Riverside. His campaign was low profile, but Hall was open about his white-supremacist beliefs when questioned.
"I want a white nation," he told the Los Angeles Times last year. "I don't hide what I am, and I don't water that down."
As regional director of the National Socialist Movement, Hall helped lead demonstrations in Riverside and Los Angeles, where supporters waved swastika flags, chanted "white power" and gave stiff-armed Nazi salutes.
Hall also helped organize militia-type watches along the California and Arizona borders, with camouflage-clad volunteers on the lookout for illegal border crossers. On the National Socialist Movement website, group founder Jeff Schoep calls Hall a family man and a "dedicated American Patriot."
Blevins said a rifle and handgun were recovered from the home. It appears that Hall died of a single gunshot wound to the chest, but an autopsy is pending, Blevins said. Source

[Hess]

Why would his son who is under 12 years old shoot him? this story makes little sense to me.

[The Ripper]

Why would his son who is under 12 years old shoot him? this story makes little sense to me.

I suspect that in this milieu, any number of reasons is possible.

[Debaser11]

"Supremacist"? Don't they mean "separatist" or "advocate"? I smell a Jew or a leftist dumbass at the narrative helm here.

[Grumpy Cat]

Unless there was some major abuse going on, I doubt it was intentional.

[The Journeyman]

A few possible scenarios: 1. The child is mentally disturbed 2. His father wouldn't let him date a black/mesican/asian girl 3. The father was abusive.

[Magister Eckhart]

A few possible scenarios: 1. The child is mentally disturbed 2. His father wouldn't let him date a black/mesican/asian girl 3. The father was abusive.

Judging by who the father is, I think 1. is a pretty viable option here.

"Supremacist"? Don't they mean "separatist" or "advocate"? I smell a Jew or a leftist dumbass at the narrative helm here.

I would say by the flags and his affiliation, the likelihood of him being in the "separatist" (i.e. David Duke) camp seems low. He's definitely a Turner Diaries type Neo-Nazi.

"White Advocate" is something so far away from people like this, I would be very reluctant to use it in regards to anyone remotely like this tatooed skinhead -- I wouldn't even use it to describe David Duke. Some of the most level-headed paleo-conservatives are white advocates. Just look at Pat Buchanan! Lumping legitimate voices in with fringe kooks, Neo-Nazis, and Klansmen does us no good, friend.

[antonio]

Did son attended public school?

[Debaser11]

Judging by who the father is, I think 1. is a pretty viable option here.



I would say by the flags and his affiliation, the likelihood of him being in the "separatist" (i.e. David Duke) camp seems low. He's definitely a Turner Diaries type Neo-Nazi.

"White Advocate" is something so far away from people like this, I would be very reluctant to use it in regards to anyone remotely like this tatooed skinhead -- I wouldn't even use it to describe David Duke. Some of the most level-headed paleo-conservatives are white advocates. Just look at Pat Buchanan! Lumping legitimate voices in with fringe kooks, Neo-Nazis, and Klansmen does us no good, friend.

Admittedly, I responded before looking at the guy. Pointed noted. But I think it's understandable and even healthy in some respects to have a knee-jerk negative response to the phrase "white supremacist." But yes, this may have been a case where the label was actually appropriate.

[Magister Eckhart]

Admittedly, I responded before looking at the guy. Pointed noted. But I think it's understandable and even healthy in some respects to have a knee-jerk negative response to the phrase "white supremacist." But yes, this may have been a case where the label was actually appropriate.

I think a knee-jerk response to anything is still just a knee-jerk response. Granted, I understand what you're getting at, and I treat everything in the sodomite press with suspicion.

Unfortunately, I have to admit that one can usually tell from an article if the subject is a real Neo-Nazi or a white separatist -- I have found, in general, real white supremacists are called just that, while white separatists get pegged as "white supremacist/white separatist" or "white nationalist" or something of that ilk. There's something of a code they write in that allows them to clump all the baddies together without calling them all the same thing - it's psychological manipulation on a level that would make Goebbels blush.