Post MDLP K23b East Eurasian Admixture

[Leto]

Very north Russian results and very similar to mine.

North Russian yes but not very similar to you in this particular case. You have no arctic, she has no Tungus-Altaic and almost no Paleo-Siberian. Also no South-Central Asian which you have.

[Norka]

North Russian yes but not very similar to you in this particular case. You have no arctic, she has no Tungus-Altaic and almost no Paleo-Siberian. Also no South-Central Asian which you have.

Well it's understandable as she has no eastern ancestry like I do. Which is why on plots I cluster more east with Erzyans.

[Kaspias]

Amerindian 0.17

Arctic-

East_Siberian 0.32

Paleo_Siberian-

South_East_Asian-

Tungus-Altaic 0.34

Austronesian-

= 0.83

with SCA and AA

Ancestral_Altaic 1.54

South_Central_Asian 6.26

= 8.63

Father's

Amerindian-

Arctic-

East_Siberian-

Paleo_Siberian 0.10

South_East_Asian-

Tungus-Altaic 0.80

Austronesian-

= 0.90

with SCA and AA

Ancestral_Altaic 1.71

South_Central_Asian 4.32

= 6.93

If you don't score any East Eurasian in other calculators it is just a noise. But if you insistly score it in other calculators as well in your case it is most probably a heritage from Slavic Migration. Other option is less possible. I don't think scoring East Eurasian - despite it is less than 1% - is very typical for your country.

[Luarev]

1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 30.89
2 Caucasian 30.24
3 European_Early_Farmers 24.77
4 South_Central_Asian 5.77
5 Near_East 2.68
6 Melano_Polynesian 2.37
7 Ancestral_Altaic 0.87
8 South_East_Asian 0.65
9 Arctic 0.47
10 Amerindian 0.37
11 Australoid 0.33
12 East_Siberian 0.32
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.28

[paradox]

If you don't score any East Eurasian in other calculators it is just a noise. But if you insistly score it in other calculators as well in your case it is most probably a heritage from Slavic Migration. Other option is less possible. I don't think scoring East Eurasian - despite it is less than 1% - is very typical for your country.

Do you mean there is the possibility of Slavic migration on my mothers side?

[Kaspias]

Do you mean there is the possibility of Slavic migration on my mothers side?

No. It is the fact that Crete took Slavic migration. But it shouldn't be high amounts so most probably there is no any east eurasian trace in your mother. With this sense i don't think your admixture came from your mother. Obviously your father have 0.90 east eurasian and you have 0.83.

[frankhammer]

1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 38.03
2 European_Early_Farmers 27.13
3 Caucasian 21.41
4 South_Central_Asian 6.3
5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.86
6 Near_East 2.21
7 Melano_Polynesian 0.4
8 Amerindian 0.37
9 East_African 0.2
10 Archaic_Human 0.05
11 North_African 0.02

Total 10.53

[Leto]

Some interesting examples I've found on Anthrogenica

Taiwanese (I guess Southern Han originally)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_East_Asian 47.24
2 Austronesian 32.06
3 Tungus-Altaic 20.6
4 Melano_Polynesian 0.06
5 Near_East 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hakka ( ) 2.4
2 Chinese_Taiwan ( ) 3.47
3 Han_Singapore ( ) 3.49
4 Han ( ) 4.82
5 Tujia ( ) 7.35
6 Jinuo ( ) 8.39
7 Hmong_Miao ( ) 8.71
8 Cantonese ( ) 8.78
9 She ( ) 8.85
10 Han-Mandarin ( ) 9.37
11 Yao ( ) 10.13
12 Lawa ( ) 10.45
13 Hmong ( ) 10.96
14 Miao ( ) 11.13
15 Paluang ( ) 11.92
16 Wa ( ) 12.86
17 Karen ( ) 13.64
18 Plang ( ) 14.6
19 Tai_Yuan ( ) 15.04
20 Tai_Khuen ( ) 15.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.3% Naga ( ) + 33.7% Atayal_Coriell ( ) @ 0.88
2 67.9% Naga ( ) + 32.1% Igorot ( ) @ 0.97
3 67.7% Naga ( ) + 32.3% Ami ( ) @ 1.13
4 68.7% Naga ( ) + 31.3% Ami_Taiwan ( ) @ 1.14
5 68.1% Naga ( ) + 31.9% Ami_Coriell ( ) @ 1.23
6 63.9% Naga ( ) + 36.1% Atayal ( ) @ 1.38
7 87.2% Han ( ) + 12.8% Japanese ( ) @ 1.43
8 79.5% Hakka ( ) + 20.5% Tujia ( ) @ 1.52
9 85.6% Han ( ) + 14.4% Ryukyuan ( ) @ 1.56
10 95.4% Hakka ( ) + 4.6% Aonaga ( ) @ 1.59
11 93.3% Hakka ( ) + 6.7% Yi ( ) @ 1.61
12 95.2% Hakka ( ) + 4.8% Naga ( ) @ 1.61
13 53.8% Kinh_Vietnam_KHV ( ) + 46.2% Korean ( ) @ 1.62
14 93.4% Hakka ( ) + 6.6% Naxi ( ) @ 1.63
15 70.2% Chinese_Taiwan ( ) + 29.8% Tujia ( ) @ 1.65
16 95.3% Hakka ( ) + 4.7% Nysha ( ) @ 1.67
17 85% Han ( ) + 15% Japanese_ML ( ) @ 1.72
18 92.6% Chinese_Taiwan ( ) + 7.4% Aonaga ( ) @ 1.76
19 89.3% Chinese_Taiwan ( ) + 10.7% Yi ( ) @ 1.78
20 73.5% Hmong_Miao ( ) + 26.5% Korean ( ) @ 1.8


Turk from Afyonkarahisar

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.93
2 South_Central_Asian 12.96
3 European_Early_Farmers 11.39
4 Near_East 10.1
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.89
6 Tungus-Altaic 7.33
7 East_Siberian 3.83
8 North_African 3.2
9 Ancestral_Altaic 3.2
10 South_East_Asian 1.48
11 Amerindian 1.05
12 Subsaharian 0.65
13 East_African 0.39
14 African_Pygmy 0.34
15 Melano_Polynesian 0.2
16 Australoid 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Aydin ( ) 7.94
2 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 8.64
3 Turk_Adana ( ) 11
4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 12.84
5 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 13.53
6 Turk ( ) 13.65
7 Iraki ( ) 13.85
8 Nogai ( ) 14.12
9 Syrian_Jew ( ) 14.7
10 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 14.95
11 Bulgarian ( ) 15.12
12 Croat_BH ( ) 15.41
13 Macedonian ( ) 15.42
14 Bosnian ( ) 15.55
15 Muslim_Arabs_Israel ( ) 15.64
16 Romanian ( ) 15.87
17 Montenegrian ( ) 15.94
18 Serb_BH ( ) 15.95
19 Lebanese ( ) 16.05
20 Azeri ( ) 16.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Cypriot ( ) + 39.6% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 3.11
2 54% Cypriot ( ) + 46% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.18
3 78.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 21.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.62
4 83.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 16.8% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 3.96
5 87.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 12.8% Hazara ( ) @ 4.04
6 90.7% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 9.3% Hakas ( ) @ 4.07
7 69.8% Turk_Adana ( ) + 30.2% Tatar-Lithuanian ( ) @ 4.08
8 86.7% Turk_Adana ( ) + 13.3% Altaian ( ) @ 4.09
9 77.5% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 22.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 4.09
10 87.5% Turk_Adana ( ) + 12.5% Tuvinian ( ) @ 4.11
11 88.1% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 11.9% Kazahs ( ) @ 4.17
12 90.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 9.2% Altaian ( ) @ 4.2
13 84% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 16% Uzbek ( ) @ 4.24
14 87.7% Turk_Adana ( ) + 12.3% Buryat ( ) @ 4.25
15 87.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 12.8% Uygur ( ) @ 4.26
16 82% Turk_Balikesir ( ) + 18% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 4.27
17 83.1% Turk_Adana ( ) + 16.9% Kazakh ( ) @ 4.31
18 61.4% Cypriot ( ) + 38.6% Uzbek ( ) @ 4.31
19 87.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 12.8% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 4.34
20 87% Turk_Adana ( ) + 13% Mongolian ( ) @ 4.34

[Kaspias]

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There are different components for represent different types of East Eurasian. What is the exact difference between East_Siberian and Tungus-Altaic? I mean can we understand the type of East Eurasian ancestry by looking these components? Like more East Siberian = Possibility of Mongol admixture or more Tungus Altaic = Turkic admixture. Just wanted to give an example and not necessarily correct. I suspect they distributed randomly btw.

[Leto]

There are different components for represent different types of East Eurasian. What is the exact difference between East_Siberian and Tungus-Altaic? I mean can we understand the type of East Eurasian ancestry by looking these components? Like more East Siberian = Possibility of Mongol admixture or more Tungus Altaic = Turkic admixture. Just wanted to give an example and not necessarily correct. I suspect they distributed randomly btw.

Well, I think Tungus-Altaic is something more Southern Siberian and Mongol whereas East Siberian is more like Northern Siberian. I don't know I'm just guessing. For example Northern Russians usually get East Siberian and Arctic rather than Tungus-Altaic which suggests a Finno-Ugric/Uralic source (see the Nenets, Khants/Mansi, etc.).
This is the Mongolian I posted a couple of months ago:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Tungus-Altaic 49.11
2 South_East_Asian 18.12
3 East_Siberian 16.86
4 Ancestral_Altaic 5.02
5 Caucasian 4.19
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.8
7 Amerindian 1.66
8 Austronesian 1.45
9 South_Central_Asian 0.96
10 Melano_Polynesian 0.4
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.23
12 Archaic_Human 0.13
13 European_Early_Farmers 0.05
14 Khoisan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kalmyk ( ) 6.17
2 Mongolian ( ) 6.65
3 Mongol_Khalkha ( ) 8.5
4 Buryat ( ) 11.17
5 Daur ( ) 12.04
6 Oroqen ( ) 12.95
7 Hezhen ( ) 13.46
8 Mongolian_QH ( ) 14.08
9 Kyrgyz ( ) 15.19
10 Tuvinian ( ) 16.52
11 Altaian ( ) 16.91
12 Kyrgyz_Bishkek ( ) 17.6
13 Mongola_China ( ) 17.85
14 Xibo ( ) 20.28
15 Kazakh ( ) 21.82
16 Ulchi ( ) 23.47
17 Kazahs ( ) 24.36
18 Hakas ( ) 24.72
19 Japanese ( ) 26.19
20 Ryukyuan ( ) 26.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.1% Kalmyk ( ) + 36.9% Mongol_Khalkha ( ) @ 4.51
2 59.6% Mongolian ( ) + 40.4% Mongol_Khalkha ( ) @ 4.52
3 73.1% Kalmyk ( ) + 26.9% Daur ( ) @ 4.61
4 70.4% Mongolian ( ) + 29.6% Daur ( ) @ 4.77
5 76.7% Kalmyk ( ) + 23.3% Hezhen ( ) @ 4.85
6 59.2% Mongol_Khalkha ( ) + 40.8% Buryat ( ) @ 5
7 74.1% Mongolian ( ) + 25.9% Hezhen ( ) @ 5.03
8 85.6% Kalmyk ( ) + 14.4% Xibo ( ) @ 5.21
9 80.4% Kalmyk ( ) + 19.6% Mongolian_QH ( ) @ 5.29
10 94.7% Kalmyk ( ) + 5.3% Naga ( ) @ 5.36
11 84.9% Kalmyk ( ) + 15.1% Mongola_China ( ) @ 5.37
12 89.6% Kalmyk ( ) + 10.4% Japanese ( ) @ 5.4
13 94.1% Kalmyk ( ) + 5.9% Tibetian_Madou ( ) @ 5.42
14 94.3% Kalmyk ( ) + 5.7% Tibetian_TTR ( ) @ 5.44
15 95.3% Kalmyk ( ) + 4.7% Aonaga ( ) @ 5.44
16 91.4% Kalmyk ( ) + 8.6% Korean ( ) @ 5.44
17 83.6% Mongolian ( ) + 16.4% Xibo ( ) @ 5.44
18 95.1% Kalmyk ( ) + 4.9% Nysha ( ) @ 5.46
19 77.4% Mongolian ( ) + 22.6% Mongolian_QH ( ) @ 5.46
20 93.6% Mongolian ( ) + 6.4% Naga ( ) @ 5.52


And this is a Yakut. Notice the much larger East Siberian percentage. Yakuts are a much more Northern population than Mongolians.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Siberian 45.49
2 Tungus-Altaic 39.3
3 South_East_Asian 5.32
4 Austronesian 2.81
5 South_Central_Asian 1.34
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.27
7 Caucasian 1.23
8 Ancestral_Altaic 1.21
9 Amerindian 0.92
10 Arctic 0.61
11 Australoid 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Yakut ( ) 6.16
2 Yakut_Anabarsky_ulus ( ) 6.52
3 Dolgan ( ) 11.42
4 Tuvinian ( ) 17.21
5 Evenk ( ) 17.26
6 Buryat ( ) 20.77
7 Oroqen ( ) 21.25
8 Even ( ) 22.23
9 Altaian ( ) 25.72
10 Kalmyk ( ) 27.81
11 Mongolian ( ) 28.59
12 Hakas ( ) 29.02
13 Yukagir_Tundra ( ) 31.97
14 Kyrgyz ( ) 32.3
15 Ulchi ( ) 33.11
16 Kyrgyz_Bishkek ( ) 33.8
17 Mongol_Khalkha ( ) 34.32
18 Kazakh ( ) 35.34
19 Kazahs ( ) 35.9
20 Daur ( ) 37.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.3% Yakut ( ) + 8.7% Han_North ( ) @ 1.98
2 90.8% Yakut ( ) + 9.2% Han-Mandarin ( ) @ 2
3 90% Yakut ( ) + 10% Korean_KR ( ) @ 2.01
4 92.1% Yakut ( ) + 7.9% Tujia ( ) @ 2.07
5 90.3% Yakut ( ) + 9.7% Korean ( ) @ 2.11
6 91.6% Yakut ( ) + 8.4% Hakka ( ) @ 2.15
7 76.7% Dolgan ( ) + 23.3% Daur ( ) @ 2.16
8 92.1% Yakut ( ) + 7.9% Han ( ) @ 2.16
9 91.6% Yakut ( ) + 8.4% Chinese_Taiwan ( ) @ 2.2
10 75.4% Dolgan ( ) + 24.6% Mongol_Khalkha ( ) @ 2.21
11 91.8% Yakut ( ) + 8.2% Han_Singapore ( ) @ 2.22
12 92.6% Yakut ( ) + 7.4% Miao ( ) @ 2.25
13 91.9% Yakut ( ) + 8.1% Jinuo ( ) @ 2.26
14 92.5% Yakut ( ) + 7.5% She ( ) @ 2.26
15 89.7% Yakut ( ) + 10.3% Japanese_ML ( ) @ 2.26
16 77.1% Dolgan ( ) + 22.9% Hezhen ( ) @ 2.27
17 91.1% Yakut ( ) + 8.9% Tu ( ) @ 2.3
18 92.5% Yakut ( ) + 7.5% Yi ( ) @ 2.34
19 92.5% Yakut ( ) + 7.5% Naxi ( ) @ 2.35
20 92.4% Yakut ( ) + 7.6% Hmong_Miao ( ) @ 2.4