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    In Italy we call various groups of people with names that I am not able to translate. Can you help me?

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    TARDONA: (litt. "a late woman"). It's a woman that arrives at her 40-50 and is still single or divorced, so she starts to wear sexy and to act like a teen in the desperate effort to pick up a man. Usually she wears miniskirts and boots, is artificial tanned, wears a lot of make up and attempts discos, clubs and night locals and of course the gym, where she doesn't lose occasion to exibit a black G-string under white aderent trousers. Maybe... a MILF? Diffusion: the whole Italy.

    TAMARRO: a guy with a very cheap style who tries to pass for cool, usually adopting a ridicolous look. The typical tamarro wears white trousers and black shirt, has gel in the hair and big glasses, sometimes even on night. In some cases he can also wear a golden chain. He attempts gym and discos and listen only house music. Diffusion: mostly in Rome.

    PIGRO/PIGRA : (litt. "lazy man/woman"). In Italian gyspies of roma origins or Italianized gyspies are often called "the lazies" becouse the don't work. For extension, pigri are also the normal Italians who adopt a gyspie style. The typical pigro is a boy that wears an earring on the left lobe with a brillant or with a little golden cross and a golden chain, usually wears low jeans and the edge of his slips are visible. The typical pigra is a girl that wears big hoop earrings, often with a second or/and a third hole and speaks mostly dialect. She wears also like a little slut, with short tops and low jeans.
    Diffusion: mostly in Pescara.

    TRUZZO/A: the typical truzzo is the son of a rich father that spends also 800 euros par month in clothes. He wears only brands, mostly Italian brands like Gucci, Alviero Martini, D&G, Fendi, Calvin Klein and Emporio Armani. Usually he wears a shoulder bag of Gucci, a swim wears of Emporio Armani and a lot of parfum. Usually his girlfriend is a truzza, a bottle-blonde or a sexy brunette to whom he gifts expensive presents of Italian brand. The typical truzza is his female counterpart. Her ideal boyfriend must own at least a BMW Z4 and bring her on vacation at the Carribbeans. This cathegory attempts expensive disco and expensive restaurants, in any case it's their parents to pay. Diffusion: the whole Italy with a highest pick in Milan.

    TARPANO: a person, often of low class, who would like to act like a truzzo, but usually his manners and his look remain boor. The typical tarpano depilates his eyebrows and speaks loud, often with a strong dialect accent. Diffusion: Apulia, with a pick in Bari.

    TECCHIO: this is typically an Abruzzese expression. It refers to a big gimmy guy that uses muscles to hit on a girl. This word is in relation with the English "thick", but I'd say more with "dick-head". Usually he has a very limited intelligence and little or null personality.

    As you see in Italy we are a bit fucked in terms of new generation. How's the situation in your country? How can I express these cathegories in English?

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    TARDONA: (litt. "a late woman"). - Solteirona

    PIGRO/PIGRA: (litt. "lazy man/woman"). - Chunga

    TRUZZO/A: - Beto

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    English translations

    Tardona = spinster or cougar

    Tamarro = douchebag (American English), frat bro

    Pigro/Pigra = hmm...we really don't have Gypsies in the Anglophone countries, so I'm not sure if it's translatable

    Truzzo/Truzza = hmm....I'd call them "trust fund kids"....as far as men who wear feminine, designer clothes...we use the term "metrosexual"

    Tarpano =

    Tecchio = .....I dunno, I'd go with douchebag again.

    Allow me to provide visual illustrations of a few textbook douchebags:





    They can often be seen wearing button-down shirts with embroidered designs on them, like so:

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    Phew, some of those terms look quite specifically Italian...

    I don't think there is a fixed term here for tardona/cougar, although there are quite a lot of them. A close term could be lloba 'she-wolf'.

    Here we have a subculture, developed from second generations of the immigration from southern Spain, which we call quillos or cholos, different from what you said but in some aspects a mix between pigros and chavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonCeorl View Post
    English translations

    Tardona = spinster or cougar

    Tamarro = douchebag (American English), frat bro

    Pigro/Pigra = hmm...we really don't have Gypsies in the Anglophone countries, so I'm not sure if it's translatable

    Truzzo/Truzza = hmm....I'd call them "trust fund kids"....as far as men who wear feminine, designer clothes...we use the term "metrosexual"

    Tarpano =

    Tecchio = .....I dunno, I'd go with douchebag again.

    Allow me to provide visual illustrations of a few textbook douchebags:







    They can often be seen wearing button-down shirts with embroidered designs on them, like so:

    Yes, metrosexual seems a perftect translation. The douchebag also *.* I realized now that they don't exist only in Italy.

    TAMARRO PAR EXELLENCE







    Tamarro usually has got a car like The Fast & The Furious.

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    The tardonas here are the Solteronas, and the Truzzo are the Pijos

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    COUGAR (from Canadian English): (litt. "a late woman"). It's a woman that arrives at her 40-50 and is still single or divorced, so she starts to wear sexy and to act like a teen in the desperate effort to pick up a man. Usually she wears miniskirts and boots, is artificial tanned, wears a lot of make up and attempts discos, clubs and night locals and of course the gym, where she doesn't lose occasion to exibit a black G-string under white aderent trousers. Maybe... a MILF? Diffusion: Everywhere

    ESCLAVE (Fr.) / HIPSTER (Eng.): a guy with a very cheap style who tries to pass for cool, usually adopting a ridicolous look. The typical tamarro wears white trousers and black shirt, has gel in the hair and big glasses, sometimes even on night. In some cases he can also wear a golden chain. He attempts gym and discos and listen only house music. Diffusion: Downtown area

    PORCH MONKEY: (litt. "lazy man/woman"). In Italian gyspies of roma origins or Italianized gyspies are often called "the lazies" becouse the don't work. For extension, pigri are also the normal Italians who adopt a gyspie style. The typical pigro is a boy that wears an earring on the left lobe with a brillant or with a little golden cross and a golden chain, usually wears low jeans and the edge of his slips are visible. The typical pigra is a girl that wears big hoop earrings, often with a second or/and a third hole and speaks mostly dialect. She wears also like a little slut, with short tops and low jeans.
    Diffusion: Subsidised housing neighbourhoods in the North or West end. - I guess in the US this is another slur for blacks. Where I am from this applies to people of all races who live in subsidised housing and don't work, because when you drive through such neighbourhoods, you often see people sitting in the porch or on the front step.

    ESCLAVE: the typical truzzo is the son of a rich father that spends also 800 euros par month in clothes. He wears only brands, mostly Italian brands like Gucci, Alviero Martini, D&G, Fendi, Calvin Klein and Emporio Armani. Usually he wears a shoulder bag of Gucci, a swim wears of Emporio Armani and a lot of parfum. Usually his girlfriend is a truzza, a bottle-blonde or a sexy brunette to whom he gifts expensive presents of Italian brand. The typical truzza is his female counterpart. Her ideal boyfriend must own at least a BMW Z4 and bring her on vacation at the Carribbeans. This cathegory attempts expensive disco and expensive restaurants, in any case it's their parents to pay. Diffusion: South End of my city.

    Note: In Acadian French, "esclave" is a term for any kind of undesirable person or a person who blindly follows trends. But unlike the "hipsters" mentioned above, I am unaware of an English equivalent for this one. Maybe because most English-speaking people where I am from are like this, whether they can afford such a livestyle or not, so it is normal and they have no word for it.

    PAIEN/NE: a person, often of low class, who would like to act like a truzzo, but usually his manners and his look remain boor. The typical tarpano depilates his eyebrows and speaks loud, often with a strong dialect accent. Diffusion: North End of my city.

    Not aware of English term.

    DOUCHEBAG: It refers to a big gimmy guy that uses muscles to hit on a girl. This word is in relation with the English "thick", but I'd say more with "dick-head". Usually he has a very limited intelligence and little or null personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    Phew, some of those terms look quite specifically Italian...

    I don't think there is a fixed term here for tardona/cougar, although there are quite a lot of them. A close term could be lloba 'she-wolf'.

    Here we have a subculture, developed from second generations of the immigration from southern Spain, which we call quillos or cholos, different from what you said but in some aspects a mix between pigros and chavs.

    Well from the images you posted cholos are very similar to pigri. I often confuse the few Indios who arrive here for pigri indeed (but for the original ones, not for the Italian pigri), so for gyspies.
    But most Indios here are adopted children, not immigrants, so basically they behave like Italians and are totally integrated.

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    Cougar
    a "Bro", a frat boy or a variation of prep (I hate these people)
    never met a gypsy
    metro sexual or again another variation of a prep
    an obnoxious northeastern (yankee)
    i don't know

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    Young Pijos (equivalent to truzzo). Politically conservative right wing catholics

    Notice the flag




    Bakalas. Trashy iliterate people mostly from working class families. They like techno, clubbing, xtasy, fast cars... Basically our lovely native chavs




    They can show pseudofascist tendencies when they´re in groups


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