Map of European Peoples - 2000 AD

[Boudica]

seriously, lol were the poles in italy?

[Whiteruthenian]

There is no such thing as Czechoslovakopolish. The split between Poles and Moravians goes back to 1000 AD, when two kingdoms emerged in West Slavic areas (Poland and Moravia). Poland lasted for 700 years and resulted into a well established ethnic unity, but Moravia was quickly crushed by Germans and Hungarians and profoundly colonized by both. In German Moravia (Czech lands), German minority in 1900s was about a third (an enormous minority). In Hungarian Moravia (Slovak lands), Hungarian minority was equal if not greater.
Also, these peoples speak mutually unintelligible languages and are separated by clear geographic boundaries (Carpathians). There is no continuum uniting both. Never has anyone considered they formed one people.

Mmkay.

So, say, Ukrainian and Russian are mutually intelligible while Slovak and Polish are not?..

Be that as it may, I'd like to ask where you included Lusatian Sorbs? It's not clear from the map.

[Whiteruthenian]

And one more question: why do you believe that between Belarusians and Lithuanians there are Poles?

[aherne]

And one more question: why do you believe that between Belarusians and Lithuanians there are Poles?

It's not a belief. It's a fact. Check other modern maps.

Belarus has a significant Polish Minority:


Lithuania has a significant Polish Minority:

[Whiteruthenian]

It's not a belief. It's a fact. Check other modern maps.

I wrote about Belarusian Poles in the first post of the thread "On Belarusian identity", you didn't read it attentively enough. Applying your own logic we must not take into account the identity of the Belarusian Poles, and if we don't, then we will see that between them and Catholic Belarusians there are no difference whatsoever.

And what about the Sorbs again, did you include them in Poles or in Czechoslovaks?

[aherne]

Applying your own logic we must not take into account the identity of the Belarusian Poles, and if we don't, then we will see that between them and Catholic Belarusians there are no difference whatsoever.

As far as I know, Roman Catholic Belarussians ARE Poles.

[Whiteruthenian]

As far as I know, Roman Catholic Belarussians ARE Poles.

Well, at the end of XIX / beginning of XX century the Catholic Belarusians contributed to what we call "National Rebirth" not less (if not more) than Orthodox Belarusians.

I know what you are going to say now, that all this "National Rebirth" is a Polish intrigue against Russians, amirite?

Where are Lusatian Sorbs again?

[Kosovo je Sjrbia]

[Zephyr]

I don't think that's quite 2000AD

[aherne]

Well, at the end of XIX / beginning of XX century the Catholic Belarusians contributed to what we call "National Rebirth" not less (if not more) than Orthodox Belarusians.

White Russians, like all Russians, were originally Orthodox, then following Union of Brest (1596), Russians living under Polish rule (White & Little Russians) became Uniate Catholics. After the tsar dissolved the Uniate Catholic church in 19th century, most former Uniates joined ranks with Orthodox Church, while a minority of White Russians (who had friendly relations with Poles, unlike Little Russians) joined ranks with Roman Catholic Church. So it seems I was wrong, Russian Roman Catholics (a true oddity), do exist today, but:

According to the historian Anatol Taras, by 1795, around 80% of Christians in Belarus were Greek Catholics, with 14% being Roman Catholics and 8% being Orthodox[1].

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus...atholic_Church
14% was the approximate size of Polish and Lithuanian minorities, so there were practically no Russian Roman Catholic (1-2% at most, all nobility).

Where are Lusatian Sorbs again?

They are not present on the map because they are mostly Germanized.