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    Default Where is the Norman love among Southern Italians, LOL

    As you know they were there for centuries and they kept Southern Italy Christian and many architecture and surnames reflect Norman influence.




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    There is very little Norman DNA in Southern Italians, and that which is there is mostly restricted to Trapani. Then again there is also Norman DNA in Lebanese Muslims...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    There is very little Norman DNA in Southern Italians, and that which is there is mostly restricted to Trapani. Then again there is also Norman DNA in Lebanese Muslims...
    Ok, they still have an influence and Haplogroup R1b is not rare in Southern Italy and that could of came from Normans also. Any they still have some influence on keeping it Christian and keeping Muslims out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSmith View Post
    Ok, they still have an influence and Haplogroup R1b is not rare in Southern Italy and that could of came from Normans also.
    Haplogroup R1b in southern Italy tends to either be the Italic branches common in the rest of Italy, or the Anatolian subclades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Haplogroup R1b in southern Italy tends to either be the Italic branches common in the rest of Italy, or the Anatolian subclades.
    It could of certainly of also came from Normans. There is no way of really knowing where it particularly came from for sure.

    R1b-U152 has also been found a low frequencies (1 to 10%) almost everywhere within the boundaries of the Roman Empire, even in regions where no other R1b-U152 people (e.g. Hallstatt/La Tène Celts) ever settled, such as Sardinia and North Africa. On the other hand, not all U152 in southern Italy may be of Italic or direct Roman origin. Some of it may be attributed to the Normans (those of Gallo-Roman rather than Viking descent) and Swabian Germans during the Middle Ages, especially in Sicily. It is still difficult at present to differentiate the Celtic vs Italic origin of the various U152 subclades. Z56 appears to be the most Italic or Roman subclade, and particularly its Z72 clade. It is rare outside Italy and has a distribution focused on central Italy. Nevertheless other branches may also be Italic, including a few L2 subclades.

    https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/italian_dna.shtml

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    my husband’s family’s name is Germanic and i always wondered if it had anything to do with them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OsricPearl View Post
    my husband’s family’s name is Germanic and i always wondered if it had anything to do with them.


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    I have some Italian relatives from Binago, Lombardy. Their surname is from the Germanic meaning blond hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OsricPearl View Post
    my husband’s family’s name is Germanic and i always wondered if it had anything to do with them.


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    Some Sicilian surnames are of French origin with an -o added at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Some Sicilian surnames are of French origin with an -o added at the end.
    I was told that the name was changed from ending with an o to an i after they arrived in the us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Some Sicilian surnames are of French origin with an -o added at the end.
    I have another surname that is Catalan in origin. My Great Great Great Great grandfather was a shoemaker in Lombardy.

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