Are Cro-Magnons really Caucasoid?

[Útrám]

Pure-blooded Cro-magnon persons of the endomorphic varieties are not just rare, but a paucity; NOWHERE are they a meaningful majority. Could it be because the more attractive invading Caucasoid populations wiped them out through sexual selection?

You can't say that this man is morphologically "white" without rendering the 'Caucasoid' category into meaninglessness.



If facial width and eye-spacing exceed the length relative to the mouth then your an anti-caucasoid. These people are the aboriginals of Europe. No wonder they occur more in places where an Indo-European tongue didn't come to dominate(with the exception of the Basques).

[Joso]

Yes. Cro-magnons were caucasoids, it were the neaderthals that were mongoloids but as cro-magnons mixed with neanderthals, they bacame not fully caucasoid too.

[Útrám]

Yes. Cro-magnons were caucasoids, it were the neaderthals that were mongoloids but as cro-magnons mixed with neanderthals, they bacame not fully caucasoid too.

Cro-magnon is kinda meaningless. But what else is there to call them? I guess the 'borreby' term works better. But Phalians aren't borrebies, their protrusive facial growth(especially the maxilla) makes them uber caucasoids. Phalians typically specialize in a highly meso-ectomorphic somatype; contrast that to the form meant for harsh winters that borrebies have.

[Knight Slayer]

Cro-Magnons were Caucasoid.

From Coon:

From ABOUT 30,000 TO 10,000 YEARS AGO, the Upper Paleolithic Europeans lived in the lee of the ice from Spain to Russia. They buried their dead as the Neanderthals had done, and they wore fitted garments. From a grave below the permafrost at Sungir, about 142 miles(200 km) east-northeast of Moscow, a male skeleton dated at 22,000 years ago was disinterred in 1964. It showed traces of a fur shirt and trousars and bracelets and beads of mammoth tusk and the perforated canine teeth of arctic fox.

The Upper Paleolithic Europeans were modern Caucasoids. During their span of 20,000 years, their bodies changed physically very little if at all, for their adjustments to their environment left nothing to be desired. The famous "Old Man of Cro Magnon" was not a giant, as often depicted, but only 5 feet, 6 inches(168.4 cm) tall. The mean stature for twelve adult male skeletons was 5 feet, 8 inches 173 cm). The tallest 5 feet, 11 1/2 inchs(182cm), and the shortest was 5 fet, 3 inches(160cm). The five female skeletons recorded had a mean sature of 5 feet, 1 inch(155.5 cm) and a range from 5 feet, 1/2 inch(154 cm) to 5 feet, 2 inches(157.5 cm). This sex difference in stature varies closely with that in head size, as we shall presently see.

The limb bones of these people were rather slender, like those of Mount Carmel people, and their hands and feet were normal for slenderly built Europeans. We know this from negative silhouettes made by spraying pigment out of bone tubes over hands held against a cave wall, and from footprints found on cave floors.

There is little evidence that the Upper Paleolithic Europeans absorbed the Neanderthals that preceded them. Why the Neanderthals faded away is a mystery. One may postulate that they succumbed to diseases brought by their successors to which they had no genetic immunity, just as smallpox and tuberculosis decimated the American Indians; or one can suppose that they were hunted down by the invaders(which has also been done in modern times); or perhaps they died of crowding or of grief. (Is it possible that, because of phonemic limitations, they could not learn their invaders' languages? Or only with a poor accent?)

About the fate of the Upper Paleolithic hunters there is no mystery. They did not vanish with the mammoths on whose flesh they feasted and from whose ribs they built large oval houses on the steppes of Russia. They survived the Pleistocene, and their descendants in Europe and in Asia became Mesolithic salmon-seiners, Neolithic villagers, Bronze Age warriors, and Iron Age Vikings. They followed the reindeer to the edge of the ice, and, when it melted, they remained there. They were restless. After they had learned agriculture and cattle breeding from others like themselves who had come from the east, they expanded, migrating southward and eastward in many waves. One of those waves reached India and later spread to many other parts of the world.

[Knight Slayer]

By the way, that man you posted is just Alpine. Not a Cro-Magnon.

[Útrám]

By the way, that man you posted is just Alpine. Not a Cro-Magnon.

He's Borreby. So, are you saying that Alpine isn't Caucasoid?

[Knight Slayer]

He's Borreby. So, are you saying that Alpine isn't Caucasoid?

He's Borreby? Says who?

When did I say Alpine was not Caucasoid, I said Alpine was not Cro-Magnon.

[Útrám]

He's Borreby? Says who?

When did I say Alpine was not Caucasoid, I said Alpine was not Cro-Magnon.

He is Borreby to anyone with eyes to see, call it 'alpine' whatever. Are they deserving or not, of their own racial category?

[Daco Celtic]