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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Than drop the word Balkan because word itself associates with Ottoman Turks and their rule, South-East Europe is more appropriate.
    As soon as Apricity members drop the word the whole world will follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    No one associates the term Balkan or Balkan countries with Ottoman Turks to be honest here in the South\West. And people associate Turkey with the Middle-East, though I am expecting some people to be super sensitive about it as some were to be coined with the term Balkan, lol.
    Balkans refers to the region of Europe controlled by Turks, but rarely includes Turkey itself. Turkey is also seen as middle eastern in Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    No one associates the term Balkan or Balkan countries with Ottoman Turks to be honest here in the South\West. And people associate Turkey with the Middle-East, though I am expecting some people to be super sensitive about it as some were to be coined with the term Balkan, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Than drop the word Balkan because word itself associates with Ottoman Turks and their rule, South-East Europe is more appropriate.
    Agree.

    If it would be up to me we would just use the term "south-east Europe". "Balkan" is too controversial and geographically inaccurate for serious use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    So you are saying that Italian dinarids and Balkan dinarids have nothing to do which each other?

    They can have different vibes, but not for the reasons he explains, the Apennine mountains have nothing to do with the process of dinarization and a process of adaptation - if any - is very long, it takes many millennia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    I agree.

    But south Croatia is very mediterranean and pretty different from Balkans. Unless you visit Zagora, but rarely foreigners go there.
    I can say also Albanian Berat or Greek coast or Trebinje are pretty different from Balkan, whats point?

    There is no Balkan as homogenic thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Balkans refers to the region of Europe controlled by Turks, but rarely includes Turkey itself. Turkey is also seen as middle eastern in Britain.
    In Portugal we associate the world Balkan with the Balkan war due to the recent events in the 90's, plus Portugal was involved as a NATO member and had several military divisions in Bosnia and Kosovo, hence why we usually correlate the term Balkan with the Western Balkan states. The average person does not make any association or correlation with Ottomans. The average Portuguese who doesn't care about geography, politics or socio-cultural aspects will tell you that from Morocco to Turkey to Saudi Arabia is the Middle-East and every person from there can be collectively known as "Arabs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Than drop the word Balkan because word itself associates with Ottoman Turks and their rule, South-East Europe is more appropriate.
    So what. There is bunch of other words here. Which word is Dalmatia or Syrmia etc.
    Romans are also occupators here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    In Portugal we associate the world Balkan with the Balkan war due to the recent events in the 90's, plus Portugal was involved as a NATO member and had several military divisions in Bosnia and Kosovo, hence why we usually correlate the term Balkan with the Western Balkan states. The average person does not make any association or correlation with Ottomans. The average Portuguese who doesn't care about geography, politics or socio-cultural aspects will tell you that from Morocco to Turkey to Saudi Arabia is the Middle-East and every person from there can be collectively known as "Arabs".
    That will trigger people haha. Fair enough though; average person doesn't think about these random things, and it's the same here in many respects.

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    Real Balkan is playing flute while taking care of your sheep on mountain in thick wool socks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    That will trigger people haha. Fair enough though; average person doesn't think about these random things, and it's the same here in many respects.
    It is how it is. This is what Northerners think of Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece as well:

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