Dalmatia, Balkan or Southern Europe ?

[Moje ime]

Southern European

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

That video you shown it's from Sinj, it's festival every year in memory of Croatian victory over Turks in 1715, their last attempt to conquer Dalmatia, they were fucked.

Dalmatia was always every close to that term Balkan Geographically, but light years away considering customs and legacy.

You dont have to like Balkan or South European, but admit we are more south European, because there is nothin to admit, we are that.

Play to anyone (for example) this TRADITIONAL Dalmatian music on dalmatian tradional instrument, and then ask him or her is this more balkan or south european, one really needs to be retard to write "balkan", cheers;



Let people here hear it and make their own judge, and let them see this pictures of our cities and towns. I dont hate Balkan, but it insults me to even connect my region to Balkan, to somethin I DONT FUCKING KNOW WHAT IS IT.

What is that? Fucking gypsies playing gypsie music for Slavs etc? I dont know what is that and thank God I dont know, take them if you know for them lol

Man I have no doubt you're Med as fuck, you're coastal dude who is partly Italian and that's what I wrote in another thread.

Thing is you ignore majority of Dalmatians are Slavic and have origins from Zagora which has typical Dinaric culture and customs.

All these things you show is Venetian cultural influence and not native for Croats of Dalmatia.

Also Alka is Turkish word.

You are elitist dude from coast who ignore majority of Dalmatia is not on the coast or islands but inland and it's not much different from Herzegovina except muslims don't exist there.

Dalmatian Croats also cluster miles from Italy LMAO, they are closer to Moldovans and Bosniak muslims, than to anybody else.

[Cumansky]

Robocop hates his own people. He proclaims all shtokavian Dalmatians as Bosnian Vlach, and believes I2a in Croats is from ancient sarmatians not Slavs.

You said I2 was Scandinavian yesterday, today it is Slavic? You contradicting yourself ..lol

If he believe PH908 was brought with north Iranians they could have easily mixed with Paleo Europeans PH908 in a nomadic tribal alliance north of Black Sea, where the carriers of PH908 were a historically distinct tribe known as" White Croats" or early Croats

[Ayetooey]

You said I2 was Scandinavian yesterday, today it is Slavic? You contradicting yourself ..lol

If he believe PH908 was brought with north Iranians they could have easily mixed with Paleo Europeans PH908 in a nomadic tribal alliance north of Black Sea, where the carriers of PH908 were a historically distinct tribe known as" White Croats" or early Croats

No, I said the predecessor clade of I2a1b was scandanavian. I2a-L147.2 is direct ancestor of slavic i2a1b.

PH908 is rarely found outside of the west Balkans. It is dinaric north which is found around the black sea, in Ukraine, Moldova, Romania etc. PH908 is almost non existent outside of former yugoslavia. If any clade was connected to Samaritans it is dinaric north.

[JohnSmith]

These terms are odd. Balkans are Southern Europe.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

No, I said the predecessor clade of I2a1b was scandanavian. I2a-L147.2 is direct ancestor of slavic i2a1b.

PH908 is rarely found outside of the west Balkans. It is dinaric north which is found around the black sea, in Ukraine, Moldova, Romania etc. PH908 is almost non existent outside of former yugoslavia. If any clade was connected to Samaritans it is dinaric north.

[Cumansky]

No, I said the predecessor clade of I2a1b was scandanavian. I2a-L147.2 is direct ancestor of slavic i2a1b.

PH908 is rarely found outside of the west Balkans. It is dinaric north which is found around the black sea, in Ukraine, Moldova, Romania etc. PH908 is almost non existent outside of former yugoslavia. If any clade was connected to Samaritans it is dinaric north.

Ok, in that case Serbs and Croats are native, and never had any Eastern European migration. Ayetooey is rewriting history of Yugoslavia

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Ok, in that case Serbs and Croats are native, and never had any Eastern European migration. Ayetooey is rewriting history of Yugoslavia

PH908 has biggest diversity in Ukraine but it's much smaller and younger clade compared to Din N

[Ayetooey]

Ok, in that case Serbs and Croats are native, and never had any Eastern European migration. Ayetooey is rewriting history of Yugoslavia

I never said PH908 was native; it came from a founder effect and split off around 1700 years ago.

[Ayetooey]

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I-PH908 is not the same as dinaric south btw, you can be I-PH908 and have the "dinaric north" mutation. I-PH908 dinaric south is quite rare in North slav countries; even in Greece, Bulgaria it's practically non existant.