Albanians and South Slavs: identity partitions comparison

[Vožd]

But I was told by another Serbian user that the differences between Serbians from different parts of Serbia were so distinct, that even in that small country there was a great deal of difference between north and south Serbians that everyone who was Serbian could easily distinguish. It seems to me that if there are small regional differences like that in the Micro level, why not the Macro level (between countries).

Regional and local culture differences are usual in Europe, Italy is good example.

[Vožd]

If muslim from Serbia, Montenegro or Kosovo become Catholic he won't become Croat and nobody will accept him as one because by blood he is Serb, or Albanian.

Janjevo Catholics are Croats by ethnicity.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Janjevo Catholics are Croats by ethnicity.

They descend from Croat settlers, so what else can they be ? Catholic Albanians in Kosovo are not Croats.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

This thread is absolute lie and Yugoslav subhuman propaganda.

Biggest lie presented in OP is that South Slavs are one people divided by religion. No, and they never were. They were separate people with separate nations even when they were pagan.
Second, my ethnicity is absolutely not centered around religion (actually biggest Croat nationalists were anti-church and secular) and you can't become a Croat by converting to Catholicism.

You are actually the first to emphasize that the majority of South Slavs belong to artificial divisions of ethnic groups. I have heard you saying that Bosniaks are either Croatian or Serbian, that Montenegrins are Serbian and that North Macedonians are Bulgarian, per example. Saying that Croatian identity doesn't evolve around Catholicism is interesting considering that during the Croatian War of Independence Catholicism and Orthodoxy were often cited as a basic division between Croats and Serbs, which led to a massive destruction of churches (some 1,426 were destroyed or damaged).

There was also Croatian pan-Slavists like Ljudevit Gaj who believed in linguistic and ethnic unity among South Slavs which contradicts the notion that you've always been completely different and separate entities. The fact is that Southern Slavs were never able to overcome their religious differences the way Germans (Protestants and Catholics) Hungarians and Bulgarians (Orthodox and Muslim) were able to.

You can only be a Croat if you have Croatian blood, meaning if you are muslim from western BiH because majority of these people (not all, see Bosniensis) are Croats by blood, dialect and genetics.
Ih muslim from western BiH convert to Catholicims, he will be a Croat because he just returned to faith of his ancestors before islamization, who were also Croats.

The majority of Serbians living in Croatia have maternal Croatian ancestors so on what grounds can you identify who can be considered Croatian or not if not based on religious divisions?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Show me one period of history when Croats and Serbs were same ethnicity. I'll help you, never.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Hungarians and Bulgarians are one historical people, Germans aren't. Croats and Serbs are separate historical people and there doesn't exist person who can prove the opposite.

You can't unite in one what was never one.

[Ford]

Hungarians and Bulgarians are one historical people, Germans aren't. Croats and Serbs are separate historical people and there doesn't exist person who can prove the opposite.

You can't unite in one what was never one.

Wut?

btw, I would rather say that Croats and Serbs are two sister populations.

[alb0zfinest]

Nice thread and I would give you my full analysis but it's too late here, I will do it tommorow, what I can say to you; I've heard from many Christian Albanians that so called kumbaya-propaganda that Albanians do not view each others by religion is nothin more but propaganda, what I've heard is that Christian Albanians are often molested (in all sorts of ways) by Muslim Albanians, maybe some of the Christian Albanians will confirm that here, I dont expect confirmation from Muslim Albanians.

Lmaooo

And you have Jordan Peterson as your Hero too? God, what a raw deal was given to you.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Show me one period of history when Croats and Serbs were same ethnicity. I'll help you, never.

Let me see, you have similar or identical names (all derive their names from Balkan-Slavic medieval Kingdoms), customs, speak variations of the same language and have a similar mentality with the main difference being the religious faith. How did this happen if you have no common roots?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Wut?

btw, I would rather say that Croats and Serbs are two sister populations.

I mean that Catholic and Protestant Hungarians are one, as are Orthodox and Muslim Bulgarians.

Hungarians come from Magyars and people united under them, Bulgarians come from Bulgars and people united under them.

There is no German tribe, or Yugoslav tribe. Those are not organic nations.

But there always existed Croats, and Serbs, and they were never considered the same apart from being closely related Slavic populations.

There did not exist ''White Yugoslavia'' in northern Europe, but ''White Croatia'' and ''White Serbia''

They had same pagan religion but they were not same people.