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    Actually in Spain we never use the word hispanic or latino. We think of ourselves as Spanish (españoles) and nothing else. To us the words hispanic/latino sounds related with South-America.

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    What I can't understand is why so many Spaniards get mad at the use of the word in the US. Seeing endless fights in YouTube comments and such is quite ridiculous. To each society, its level of knowledge. If the word has some purpose for the American society, so be it.

    As if Spain and Spaniards were so accurate in the use of the word moro, which I've seen used even for Pakis...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    What I can't understand is why so many Spaniards get mad at the use of the word in the US. Seeing endless fights in YouTube comments and such is quite ridiculous. To each society, its level of knowledge. If the word has some purpose for the American society, so be it.

    As if Spain and Spaniards were so accurate in the use of the word moro, which I've seen used even for Pakis...
    We have a word that sounds way more offensive than Sudaca, Moro, etc. We call it "Boliguayo" You can guess what it means. It's a crossword between Paraguayo and Bolivia and means someone North of us, showing indifference for their origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
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    As if Spain and Spaniards were so accurate in the use of the word moro, which I've seen used even for Pakis...
    The difference is that the word moro is not used in our census, it's not an official race, while hispanic/latino are officially races in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    The difference is that the word moro is not used in our census, it's not an official race, while hispanic/latino are officially races in the US.
    Americans are very stupid with the terms they use.

    They call anyone with a nigger ancestor as "black" no matter how mixed it is, while it sounds right; it's very wrong at a practical lebel.

    Likewise, they call all white people "Caucasians" when they're not. Personally I find it stupid. Why not call them Balkanians, Iberians, Scandinavians? Most don't belong to either, anyway.

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    We have spoken about this matter a lot.

    Hispanic means literally Hispano. Means "from Hispania".


    In the movie Gladiator, (known by everyone. Sadly hollyjewood "teaches" more than history books)
    the main character is from Hispania at the service of Rome



    - In the original, the main character, maximus is called WRONGLY: the Spaniard (the one from modern Spain, that is basically true, but not still, not in these years.)

    - In the Spanish version he is called correctly: El Hispano (the one from Hispania).

    ...

    Of course, they could neve have dared to call him correctly by the word "The Hispanic."... since they already fucked and spoiled the sense of this word, related to:


    Just another dramatic consequence of the bad use of terminologies and words by a whole nation and its people.

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    Concluding: They are Sudacas. There is no confusion with this word that is originally dedicated to them by the old masters.

    Don't matter how much they love to be called Latinos, or by names that are not theirs but from other people in the other side of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iberia View Post
    The difference is that the word moro is not used in our census, it's not an official race, while hispanic/latino are officially races in the US.
    There is an obvious difference, this is not the New World, and tbh, I really hope there is never such an inaccurate census with 'identity labels' that cluster together people who are so different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Arnau View Post
    There is an obvious difference, this is not the New World, and tbh, I really hope there is never such an inaccurate census with 'identity labels' that cluster together people who are so different.
    And what about the Frente Moro de Liberación Nacional? Seems to wherever a Cristiano Viejo of Spanish heritage is, there's an Islamist who wants to be a Moor.

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    In Spain, up until the last few years, Latino was a speaker of a Latin Vulgar dialect (such as the iberian dialects, the italics, the occitan, etc) a "Hispano" was a person with Spanish blood and able to speak Spanish , whereas Español refered to someone born in Spain, Europe, even tho ihis or her language wasn´t Spanish (Such as some Galicians, Basques, Valencians etc)

    Now however, since we have received large chunks of Latin american immigration we have started to use the term Latino in the way Americans use it. You see it in the media, and you hear it from people, and it is really annoying.It implies for example, that the old spanish speakers from the United States fall in the same category than the hordes of recent migrants from Central and South America. And believe me, a Californio, a Panameño, and and Argentine are as different if not much more than an American, a French canadian and a Turk

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    Agree. When the famous crooner Francisco sang Latino (circa 1980) nobody misunderstood the kind of person he was describing. And Hispanic was related with Hispanidad-Hispanity, a concept wrapping American Discovery and all the new lands belonging to Spanish Empire, and celebrated day of Virgen del Pilar, Spain patroness. And Latinoamerica, the term root of all this evil, a French neologism coined to include Italian and probably French contribution of Centre and South America.

    And the Latino shift took place, not only by massive inmigration, but also by Anglosaxon colonization, thru f.e. TV serials, continously talking about Latinos.

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