When is it time to consider plastic surgery

[Kivan]

You don't need plastic surgery, unless you have some actual physical defect.

You should accept who you are and try to improve yourself(by going to gym, wearing better clothes, etc). It's just my opinion.

[Roy]

I think it's not a good idea. You can try first some other methods if you are unsatisfied.

[farke1]

When you've exhausted all other options for ameliorating a physical deficiency. It should never be a first option.

[Borealis]

If you are not happy with your mind and soul you will never be happy with your body. Confidence is more attractive than physical features to most women.

Confidence comes with good looks.

[calxpal]

Idk I'm considering it and I'm no longer scared to say I'm genuinely interested in plastic surgery, I want to feel more confident and comfortable in my own skin, and I want to be treated as more mature and serious as well like I am. Of course I'm not completely sure I'll ever get it for various reasons, but I want to feel like my true self and get the same opportunities and treatment as attractive people I know. The main surgeries I would consider are a nose job and hairline lowering, and maybe breast implants. I actually sympathize a lot with some people who get plastic surgery, I don't think it should be shameful. The world demands looks more than ever.

[CosmoLady]

Idk I'm considering it and I'm no longer scared to say I'm genuinely interested in plastic surgery, I want to feel more confident and comfortable in my own skin, and I want to be treated as more mature and serious as well like I am. Of course I'm not completely sure I'll ever get it for various reasons, but I want to feel like my true self and get the same opportunities and treatment as attractive people I know. The main surgeries I would consider are a nose job and hairline lowering, and maybe breast implants. I actually sympathize a lot with some people who get plastic surgery, I don't think it should be shameful. The world demands looks more than ever.

There is nothing wrong with considering cosmetic surgery, especially publicly on a forum! I admire your bravery

Yes, most celebrities have had surgery (at least a rhinoplasty/nose job),
and usually have many other procedures and injections as well,
many celebrities used to be surprisingly 'average' before these procedures. Some of them go too far.

https://theskincareedit.com/before-after
(if you click See More like 10 times, you reach the end of the list)

I would still avoid cosmetic surgery or procedures, unless you have a specific deformity;
if you are a normal person with a normal appearance, then there is no real reason for surgery.
There are always risks of course,
there are follow-up procedures such as implants that must be replaced periodically,
but the biggest risk is that you will be unhappy and unable to undo the procedure,
or even worse, never satisfied, always wanting one more procedure after another.
Do you really want to spend tens of thousands of dollars on something that is not really necessary?

Of course surgery should not be shameful,
and I sympathise with people who feel that they need surgery.

[CosmoLady]

I may be like you, with a large forehead and receding hairline, and a flat chest (32A or 32AA bra size in North America).
And I am short and childlike as well, with the average height of a 12-year-old girl, many men do not take me seriously,
and I have had some embarrassing situations at bars and clubs.
Of course I compare myself with other women, sometimes I envy other women.
But I have never felt insecure or uncomfortable with myself. I accept myself as I am.

Surely you are attractive as you are! Healthy skin and a healthy weight are sufficient for most women to be attractive.
Natural youth and youthfulness help a lot too, but this may be out of your control as you age.

Do you feel that you are 'not good enough' as you naturally are?

If you do not accept yourself as you naturally are, then why would you accept yourself after surgery?
Do you really need surgery to be your true self?

Maybe the beauty standards promoted by the media and society are unrealistic, too demanding, and demoralising to women?

Finally, what is the real reason that you want surgery?
Do you think that after surgery, you will receive better treatment and more opportunities, in your romantic life and/or career?

The best thing is for all of us to improve our own appearance/body/style as much as possible NATURALLY,
along with our attitude and behaviour,
to be the best that we can be.
Accomplishment will bring us self-confidence. Meanwhile self-acceptance will bring us self-love.

And self-confidence and self-love will radiate noticeably,
and will attract more opportunities, better circumstances, and better people to you!

Surgery does not usually fix low self-esteem or self-love, the issues are usually internal.
You may still be unhappy, possibly more unhappy, after surgery.

Take care, I wish you all the best

[calxpal]

I may be like you, with a large forehead and receding hairline, and a flat chest (32A or 32AA bra size in North America).
And I am short and childlike as well, with the average height of a 12-year-old girl, many men do not take me seriously,
and I have had some embarrassing situations at bars and clubs.
Of course I compare myself with other women, sometimes I envy other women.
But I have never felt insecure or uncomfortable with myself. I accept myself as I am.

Surely you are attractive as you are! Healthy skin and a healthy weight are sufficient for most women to be attractive.
Natural youth and youthfulness help a lot too, but this may be out of your control as you age.

Do you feel that you are 'not good enough' as you naturally are?

If you do not accept yourself as you naturally are, then why would you accept yourself after surgery?
Do you really need surgery to be your true self?

Maybe the beauty standards promoted by the media and society are unrealistic, too demanding, and demoralising to women?

Finally, what is the real reason that you want surgery?
Do you think that after surgery, you will receive better treatment and more opportunities, in your romantic life and/or career?

The best thing is for all of us to improve our own appearance/body/style as much as possible NATURALLY,
along with our attitude and behaviour,
to be the best that we can be.
Accomplishment will bring us self-confidence. Meanwhile self-acceptance will bring us self-love.

And self-confidence and self-love will radiate noticeably,
and will attract more opportunities, better circumstances, and better people to you!

Surgery does not usually fix low self-esteem or self-love, the issues are usually internal.
You may still be unhappy, possibly more unhappy, after surgery.

Take care, I wish you all the best

Hi I deleted my posts but I screenshotted them so we can still discuss in PM

[lei.talk]

...people think I'm attractive
which is understandable, even if I personally don't myself...

does your very detailed low estimation of your appearance
affect your response to the men and women that do express an attraction
which would lead to a more intimate relationship

...I've also had people tell me
I have no hope of being desired sexually
and that no men will want me for anything other than sex
that I can't be desirable to men....

if men want you for sex
does that not mean you are "desired sexually"
and "desirable to men"

if you enjoy sex (which a man would like about you)
and do not present difficult behavior
(that would make your presence intolerable
during the time you are not sharing your joy of sex)...

most men would be satisfied

and the many positive traits you have enumerated
would be considered a bonus.

if you feed a guy
and enjoy sex with him
and the nest you share magically becomes neat and clean
when he is not looking...
what male response might you expect