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    Default Illyrians are forefathers of I2 Slavs

    I was just checking RISE479 2000 B.C. hungarian gedmatch sample F999944, and it showed me this:

    1 Baltic 45.93
    2 North_Atlantic 33.71
    3 West_Med 20.35


    Now for those who are unaware of history, especially Basic history I must tell you that History tells us
    that: Illyrians invaded Western Balkans in 500 B.C. from Hungary, and they fought those who are called
    Thracians.

    Apart from historical narrative about that event, we also have a toponyms and hydronimes for example
    Great Hungarian Plain is called Pannonian Plain. "Pannonian"? What do Greeks say about Pannonius?

    Greeks say that Pannonius is one of the sons of Illyrius out of whom many tribes were identified as
    Pannonian Illyrian Tribes, so the modern name "Pannonian Plain" means = Land of Illyrians.

    So when they came down they fought Thracians and defeated them, mixed with them, then mixed
    with Romans, and now from that Early result they look like this:


    1 Baltic 28.79
    2 North_Atlantic 25.11
    3 West_Med 16.52

    4 East_Med 15.27
    5 West_Asian 8.96

    See that TOP 3 the strongest admixture similar to Hungarian 2000 B.C? Or should I say Illyrian?

    Also when you go to Modern Hungary you clearly see those people are NOT Huns but Europeans,
    they might have been under foreign occupation, but name Hungary just like Bulgaria is just a name
    given by occupiers.

    That's why modern South Slavs in Herodotian context are Romano-Illyrian people.

    Macedonians and Bulgarians would be Thraco-Roman

    Albanians, Greeks would be well Greek, Thraco-Greco-Italian mix. etc..

    UPDATE

    in Appian's Illyrian Wars holds that Celtus was the son of Polyphemos and Galatea and the brother of Illyrius and Galas


    CELTS WEST - ILLYRIANS EAST



    Video on Illyrians mentioning Illyrian invasion of Balkans in 500 BC

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    A thought that Albanians descent from Illyrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPASTRATOSELS26 View Post
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    A thought that Albanians descent from Illyrians.
    Albanians are mix of southern people (Italians, Greeks, Thracians and Illyrians) but are Way southern due proximity and chance of mixing with Greco-Romans

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    UPDATE

    in Appian's Illyrian Wars holds that Celtus was the son of Polyphemos and Galatea and the brother of Illyrius and Galas


    CELTS WEST - ILLYRIANS EAST



    Video on Illyrians mentioning Illyrian invasion of Balkans in 500 BC


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    I2a1b spread to the Balkans with the Slavs, the actual Illyrians probably had swarthy med haplogroups like J or E, and maybe some Indo-European ones like R1b or R1a.

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    J2 here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockorer View Post
    I2a1b spread to the Balkans with the Slavs, the actual Illyrians probably had swarthy med haplogroups like J or E, and maybe some Indo-European ones like R1b or R1a.
    Proto Illyrians=R1b; then they of course assimilated J and E natives, and these people became the Illyrian tribes. Illyrians were very irrelevant historically though so I don't see the obsession with them; they were just a small group of deranged, unrelated savage tribes which got cucked by the Romans and given a broad name. They didn't exist in any meaningful sense when the Slavs came.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Proto Illyrians=R1b; then they of course assimilated J and E natives, and these people became the Illyrian tribes. Illyrians were very irrelevant historically though so I don't see the obsession with them; they were just a small group of deranged, unrelated savage tribes which got cucked by the Romans and given a broad name. The didn't exist in any meaningful sense when the Slavs came.
    Hahaha spot on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Proto Illyrians=R1b; then they of course assimilated J and E natives, and these people became the Illyrian tribes. Illyrians were very irrelevant historically though so I don't see the obsession with them; they were just a small group of deranged, unrelated savage tribes which got cucked by the Romans and given a broad name. They didn't exist in any meaningful sense when the Slavs came.
    Funny someone with Y-DNA I2a-Din talking about getting cucked. Pretty much every arrival in Europe cucked your ancestors at some point in history.

    Add to that you're a Slav.

    "slave" - From Middle English, from Old French sclave, from Medieval Latin sclāvus (“slave”), from Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”), because Slavs were often forced into slavery in the Middle Ages."

    When your ethnonym describes the literally lowest human form, there's little room for talking.

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