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    After the fall of Constantinople, a lot of bizantine intelectuals escaped from ottoman invasion and arrived in Italy. They did bring with themselves a lot of books about the ancient times (written in greek), which helped the italians in the Renaissance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasconcelos View Post
    I've never read anything remotely similar to that claim, it seems totally absurd. Give us a quote and its original source
    "Rumi, Rumes" = Romans in Persian and Arab.


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    the West must pay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    You think I am biased because of religion?

    The only reason we converted is because those people are direct ancestors of Ottomans:

    My family lived in Dalmatia as direct servants of Byzantine Theme of Dalmatia and we know very well who are Ottomans.

    John I Tzimiskes
    Romanos I Lekapenos
    Mizizios
    Leo V the Armenian
    Stephen Lekapenos
    Constantine Lekapenos
    Christopher Lekapenos
    Heraclius
    Basil I
    Philippikos Bardanes
    Artabasdos

    Those are all Armenian, Syrian and Greek mixed Byzantines = modern day Turks.

    I will not say anything. I will only post the results and leave interpretation to you


    DodecadK12b

    Armenian
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    Syrian
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    Capadocian Greek
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    Pontian Greek
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    And you expect this to occur when these all get mixed?

    Anatolian Turk
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    Turks have their own genetics that you don't have to associate with any other non Turkic nation. A Turk from North cluster with a Turk from South or Center. A Turk from West cluster with a Turk from East or Bulgaria. They even cluster with Azeris and Tatars too but you can never expect a Greek from Thessaly to cluster with a Pontian. Their nation has a wide gene pool.

    Mycenaean
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    Cretan Greek
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    Epirus Greek
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    Greek Cypriot
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    In such a situation claiming that Turks are ''Greek'' becomes even more ridiculous.
    You offend Turkish people with your claims. Just leave them alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    "Rumi, Rumes" = Romans in Persian and Arab.

    That just means that some individuals were not Turks, but "Rumes". It does not mean Ottomans were Romans or that they were called as such. It also says they were literally "white"

    "Many times (I) asked [...] to some white soldier if he was Turk, and he replied that no, but a Rume; and to others asked if they were Turk"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bornoz View Post
    In such a situation claiming that Turks are ''Greek'' becomes even more ridiculous.
    You offend Turkish people with your claims.
    What is ridiculous is even comparing mixed eurasian populations = Turks, to overwhelmingly Europeans = Greeks.

    Genetic ancestry of Turks: 45% Middle Eastern, 40% European and 15% Central Asian

    http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/anatolian-turks.html
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...701.x/abstract


    Greeks genetically

    Greek(full Greek only): European 87.6%, Middle Eastern 12.4%. Sub-Saharan African, Northeast African, South Asian, East Asian, North Asian, Native American 0.0%.

    DNA Tribes® SNP Admixture Results by Population
    http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-a...2012-08-01.pdf

    All Greeks : 93,4 % European

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t99...6#post11562743
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellenas View Post
    What is ridiculous is even comparing mixed eurasian populations = Turks, to overwhelmingly Europeans = Greeks.

    Genetic ancestry of Turks: 45% Middle Eastern, 40% European and 15% Central Asian

    http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/anatolian-turks.html
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...701.x/abstract


    Greeks genetically

    Greek(full Greek only): European 87.6%, Middle Eastern 12.4%. Sub-Saharan African, Northeast African, South Asian, East Asian, North Asian, Native American 0.0%.

    DNA Tribes® SNP Admixture Results by Population
    http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-snp-a...2012-08-01.pdf

    All Greeks : 93,4 % European

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t99...6#post11562743
    Your problem is that you don't understand who the Hellenic people were before migrating to Greece peninsula.

    They were Syrians, and Syria was always held in high regard among Hellenic people who built the highest and greatest Pagan temple of Bacchus and Apollo.

    Apollo or Apollo Hyperborean himself was Syrian diety Apulinas with identical descriptions and everything.

    Etruscan people were Half Assyrian admixed.

    The reason you are 80% European goes by the fact that modern Greeks have incorporated a lot of occupying force from Frankish Germanic and other
    people, but those are not Europeans but Conquerors of Europe mostly.

    You ignore true ancestry of Hellenic people and trying to Align Hellenic Civilization to NEW Western Europe that is mostly composed of Steppe and Germanic 5th century A.D. Conquerors.

    Egyptians and Persians are closer to Greeks than Germans, but I bet you don't think so, nor you do understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Your problem is that you don't understand who the Hellenic people were before migrating to Greece peninsula.

    They were Syrians, and Syria was always held in high regard among Hellenic people who built the highest and greatest Pagan temple of Bacchus and Apollo.

    Apollo or Apollo Hyperborean himself was Syrian diety Apulinas with identical descriptions and everything.

    Etruscan people were Half Assyrian admixed.

    The reason you are 80% European goes by the fact that modern Greeks have incorporated a lot of occupying force from Frankish Germanic and other
    people, but those are not Europeans but Conquerors of Europe mostly.

    You ignore true ancestry of Hellenic people and trying to Align Hellenic Civilization to NEW Western Europe that is mostly composed of Steppe and Germanic 5th century A.D. Conquerors.

    Egyptians and Persians are closer to Greeks than Germans, but I bet you don't think so, nor you do understand that.
    What? What trolling is that?

    Turks are Greeks, ancient Greeks and Apollo were Syrians, Etruscans were half Assyrians, Greeks are only 80% European(perhaps less than that) and Greeks are European due to mixing with Germanics(lol!), MENA are closer to Greeks than Europeans and I understand nothing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellenas View Post
    What? What trolling is that?

    Turks are Greeks, ancient Greeks and Apollo were Syrians, Etruscans were half Assyrians, Greeks are only 80% European(perhaps less than that) and Greeks are European due to mixing with Germanics(lol!), MENA are closer to Greeks than Europeans and I understand nothing.



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