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    Default Central Asia: Death of Beauty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebBxaWq10Gw

    Do you agree with this video or do you believe the history was already to different in all means of race, culture and traditions. What is interesting it seems that Central Asian populations have the Mongoloid input through the maternal line, not the paternal line unlike what the video claims.

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    The video is right insofar, as it was a population replacement to genocide, especially in the steppe area and rather progressive Europid racal elements were driven away, killed or became mixed with Tungo-Sibirids.

    The Turkic groups seem to have been, in my opinion, strongly influenced by elite Indo-European "teachers" and "converts", which formed them into what they became...

    So the technology and knowledge transfer happened then by blood ties too, with Indo-Europeans, even from the upper class, changing to them.

    Also, many rests of the formerly independent Indo-European tribes were included into the Turkic alliances and survived therefore in it...

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    Ancient depictions of the inhabitants of Central Asia and the Middle East seem to indicate that the video has more truth to it than modern inhabitants of these regions want to admit.

    Somewhat related:

    [YOUTUBE]l3fULYeqgQ4[/YOUTUBE]
    "For it is by no means the case that only those who believe in God could possibly have a vested interest in the question of His existence."
    --Edward Feser
    "Our civilization has had many religions and many dispensations of thought. But one of the things that we have forgotten is that open-mindedness to the future and respect for evidence does mean wooliness and an absence of certitude in what we are."
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdealUral View Post

    Do you agree with this video
    More or less, yes. But we shouldn't hate all 3 billion Mongoloids on earth just because of this...What people don't understand is the Turkic groups had no choice but to expand west-ward, they were under pressure from the east & competing for grazing lands. It's not like the Iranian groups would just allow them to come on their territory, and the Turks knew this, so they had to take it by force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser11 View Post

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    [YOUTUBE]l3fULYeqgQ4[/YOUTUBE]
    That video not credible. First off, the claims of the Indo-Europeans originating in the Caucasus sounds like romanticized views held in the late 1800's, by Blumenbach and whoever. The reality is much different. Secondly the video claims the Kushans were Mongoloids who destroyed the Aryans. This is not true. Kushans were without any doubt Indo-Europeans & only came to India because they were displaced by the Xiongnu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastarnae View Post
    That video not credible. First off, the claims of the Indo-Europeans originating in the Caucasus sounds like romanticized views held in the late 1800's, by Blumenbach and whoever.
    So? I wasn't aware that such views were actually discredited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bastarnae View Post
    The reality is much different. Secondly the video claims the Kushans were Mongoloids who destroyed the Aryans. This is not true. Kushans were without any doubt Indo-Europeans & only came to India because they were displaced by the Xiongnu.

    Uh, okay.
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    "Our civilization has had many religions and many dispensations of thought. But one of the things that we have forgotten is that open-mindedness to the future and respect for evidence does mean wooliness and an absence of certitude in what we are."
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    This sentimental bullshit is just pointless.

    You can't blame the Mongols for killing the Indo-Europeans in Central Asia, no more than you can blame the modern-day white Americans for killing the Native Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColourBlind View Post
    This sentimental bullshit is just pointless.

    You can't blame the Mongols for killing the Indo-Europeans in Central Asia, no more than you can blame the modern-day white Americans for killing the Native Americans.

    Who said anything about "blame"? It's merely an academic question within this thread as far as I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser11 View Post
    So? I wasn't aware that such views were actually discredited.
    It's interesting to read March of the Titans - like reading a tabloid, but it's stormfront material full of innacuracies. For example Chapter 18 : The First Great Race War - Atilla the Hun:

    http://www.wendag.com/forum/showthre...ull=1#post3307

    Athanaric, king of the Visigoths, engaged the Huns at the Dniester River in modern day Bulgaria, but the Huns defeated the Visigothic army as well.
    The Dniester river is not in Bulgaria, it's between Moldova & Ukraine.

    They can't even get their geography right. March of the Titans is a joke.

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    What does the accuracy of certain material found within Kemp's work have to do with your previous claim?
    "For it is by no means the case that only those who believe in God could possibly have a vested interest in the question of His existence."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser11 View Post
    What does the accuracy of certain material found within Kemp's work have to do with your previous claim?
    My previous claim was that March of the Titans is not credible.
    The fact that Arthur Kemp thinks the Dniester is in Bulgaria just proves he is full of shit.

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