Ladogan is very tall type

[Laag]

I've noticed a lot of people say that Ladogan can't be tall and he needs Nordic influence to be tall. Totally wrong. Many forget that Ladogan is unreduced Upper Paleolithic type and like other unreduced Upper Paleolithic type Brunn is very tall.

An example of North-East Upper Paleolithic type from Coon. She's 1,75 m it's more than some Nordic men from Coon.


An example of Brunn type(North-West Upper Paleolithic) from Coon. He's 1,69 m.


An example of Nordic man from Coon. He's 1,70 m.


Some other examples of North-East Upper Paleolithic type.

Natalia Vodianova - 1,76 m


Katya Shchekina - 1, 77 m


Natalia Surkova - 1,75 m


Nastya V - 1,77 m

[Sp_loa]

You don't have to be Nordid to be tall.
2 of my great grandfathers were close to 2 meters tall (almost 6'7) and they were born in late 19th century, when people were significantly shorter than today. Even the women in one side were 1.80m (again borned late 19th century). They were nothing Nordid, but one of them was definitely of CM type.

From what I saw real CM are usually very tall; and the Ladogan type looks very CM to me with a very developed Jawline and Maxilla.

[Joso]

Brunns are not unreduced upper paleoilithics and neither does these you posted look paleolithic. Ladogans likely have some kind of nordid admixture to make them tall. Tall height is not an archaic trait. But these you posted are not tall, also.
You seen to have some problems

[Laag]

Brunns are not unreduced upper paleoilithics and neither does these you posted look paleolithic. Ladogans likely have some kind of nordid admixture to make them tall. Tall height is not an archaic trait. But these you posted are not tall, also.
You seen to have some problems

Thanks for the comment. I think as always in anthropology we might have different views on various issues. It's great that you have your point. As the saying goes, truth is born in disputes.

[Laag]

According to Coon Brunn, Ladogan (Eastern UP) and Upper Palaeolithic type in Morocco (Southern UP) are unreduced Upper Palaeolithic types, Borreby and East Baltic are partially reduced Upper Palaeolithic types and Alpine is reduced Upper Palaeolithic type.

[Golden Lining]

According to Coon Brunn, Ladogan (Eastern UP) and Upper Palaeolithic type in Morocco (Southern UP) are unreduced Upper Palaeolithic types, Borreby and East Baltic are partially reduced Upper Palaeolithic types and Alpine is reduced Upper Palaeolithic type.

Except that Coon did not have "Phalian" and "Tydal" and he specifically said that Borreby is UNREDUCED.

But in the end, his "UP" concept is a real weak point in Coon's work.

[Laag]

Except that Coon did not have "Phalian" and "Tydal" and he specifically said that Borreby is UNREDUCED.

But in the end, his "UP" concept is a real weak point in Coon's work.

I think you're right Borreby should be placed in unreduced category.

[Ülev]

okay

[Laag]

Valeria Safronova. 1, 83 m.