Bosniak Gedmatch results

**Kaspias** · 06-10-2019, 08:55 PM

y-DNA: Q-L713 https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L713/
mt-DNA: K1b2a1 https://www.yfull.com/mtree/K1b2a1/

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.58
2 North_Atlantic 27.4
3 West_Med 16.44
4 East_Med 12.38
5 West_Asian 9.63
6 Red_Sea 2.19
7 Amerindian 1.9
8 East_Asian 0.84
9 South_Asian 0.43
10 Siberian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.85
2 Moldavian 5.98
3 Hungarian 6.96
4 Romanian 6.99
5 Croatian 7.67
6 Bulgarian 9.61
7 Austrian 9.93
8 East_German 11.32
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.16
10 South_Polish 14.72
11 West_German 15.5
12 Ukrainian 15.53
13 South_Dutch 16.96
14 French 17.35
15 Greek_Thessaly 17.79
16 Polish 18.21
17 North_Italian 18.72
18 Southwest_Russian 19.26
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.42
20 North_German 19.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74% Croatian + 26% Tuscan @ 2.49
2 77.4% Moldavian + 22.6% North_Italian @ 2.58
3 76.2% Croatian + 23.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.59
4 81.1% Moldavian + 18.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.65
5 80.6% Moldavian + 19.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.68
6 54.4% Bulgarian + 45.6% East_German @ 2.74
7 79.6% Moldavian + 20.4% Portuguese @ 2.78
8 59.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.2% Tuscan @ 2.79
9 81.4% Moldavian + 18.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.84
10 82.1% Moldavian + 17.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.84
11 80.9% Moldavian + 19.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.85
12 59.1% Hungarian + 40.9% Bulgarian @ 2.86
13 73.5% Serbian + 26.5% Croatian @ 2.87
14 82.1% Moldavian + 17.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.87
15 80.3% Moldavian + 19.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.88
16 50.1% Hungarian + 49.9% Romanian @ 2.89
17 77.6% Croatian + 22.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.89
18 72.3% Croatian + 27.7% North_Italian @ 2.93
19 50.9% North_Italian + 49.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.93
20 63.3% Romanian + 36.7% East_German @ 2.94

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 22.13
2 Baltic 18.79
3 West_Med 13.01
4 Atlantic 12.96
5 Eastern_Euro 11
6 East_Med 10.36
7 West_Asian 7.85
8 Red_Sea 1.9
9 Amerindian 1.54
10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
11 South_Asian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.33
2 Serbian 6.45
3 Hungarian 6.52
4 Romanian 7.98
5 Croatian 8.48
6 Austrian 10.43
7 Bulgarian 10.69
8 East_German 11.4
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.29
10 Ukrainian 13.32
11 South_Polish 13.57
12 West_German 15.59
13 Greek_Thessaly 15.83
14 Polish 16.4
15 South_Dutch 16.7
16 French 16.72
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.73
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.75
19 Southwest_Finnish 18.01
20 Southwest_Russian 18.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.3% Hungarian + 26.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.3
2 81.3% Hungarian + 18.7% Central_Greek @ 3.98
3 87.7% Hungarian + 12.3% Cyprian @ 4.04
4 54.7% Ukrainian + 45.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.04
5 56.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.05
6 81.2% Hungarian + 18.8% Ashkenazi @ 4.08
7 82.1% Hungarian + 17.9% East_Sicilian @ 4.1
8 83.7% Hungarian + 16.3% South_Italian @ 4.14
9 87.2% Hungarian + 12.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.19
10 89.4% Hungarian + 10.6% Samaritan @ 4.2
11 89.7% Hungarian + 10.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.24
12 78.4% Hungarian + 21.6% Greek @ 4.25
13 56.6% Greek_Thessaly + 43.4% Estonian @ 4.31
14 57.8% Hungarian + 42.2% Romanian @ 4.32
15 85.8% Hungarian + 14.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.32
16 66.8% Hungarian + 33.2% Bulgarian @ 4.35
17 86.5% Hungarian + 13.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.37
18 62.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.8% Tuscan @ 4.41
19 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Syrian @ 4.42
20 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.44

MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.12
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 32.27
3 European_Early_Farmers 21.36
4 Near_East 3.06
5 South_Central_Asian 2.99
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.02
7 South_East_Asian 1.43
8 Amerindian 1.02
9 Arctic 0.57
10 Austronesian 0.52
11 Tungus-Altaic 0.48
12 East_Siberian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Montenegrian ( ) 3.57
2 Serb_Serbia ( ) 4.09
3 Bulgarian ( ) 4.67
4 Macedonian ( ) 5.01
5 Serb_BH ( ) 5.64
6 Croat ( ) 5.88
7 Bosnian ( ) 6.78
8 Greek_Northwest ( ) 7
9 Croat_BH ( ) 7.52
10 Kosovar ( ) 7.71
11 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.02
12 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 9.26
13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.44
14 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 9.57
15 Romanian ( ) 9.9
16 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 10.46
17 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10.51
18 Sicilian_West ( ) 10.55
19 Slovenian ( ) 10.6
20 Hungarian ( ) 11.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Kosovar ( ) + 32.4% Kashub ( ) @ 2.44
2 72.8% Kosovar ( ) + 27.2% Russian-West ( ) @ 2.44
3 69.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 30.8% Kosovar ( ) @ 2.5
4 75.5% Kosovar ( ) + 24.5% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 2.53
5 77.3% Kosovar ( ) + 22.7% Latvian ( ) @ 2.55
6 73.7% Kosovar ( ) + 26.3% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 2.56
7 74.3% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 25.7% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 2.56
8 77.9% Kosovar ( ) + 22.1% Estonian ( ) @ 2.56
9 68.9% Kosovar ( ) + 31.1% Sorb ( ) @ 2.58
10 76% Kosovar ( ) + 24% Balt ( ) @ 2.58
11 66.3% Gagauz ( ) + 33.7% Frisian ( ) @ 2.59
12 74.5% Kosovar ( ) + 25.5% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 2.6
13 73.3% Kosovar ( ) + 26.7% Russian_North ( ) @ 2.63
14 70.6% Kosovar ( ) + 29.4% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 2.64
15 70.2% Gagauz ( ) + 29.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.64
16 65.7% Kosovar ( ) + 34.3% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 2.65
17 75.1% Kosovar ( ) + 24.9% Moksha ( ) @ 2.65
18 64.9% Kosovar ( ) + 35.1% Slovak ( ) @ 2.66
19 71.2% Kosovar ( ) + 28.8% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 2.69
20 52.7% Albanian_Tirana ( ) + 47.3% Slovenian ( ) @ 2.7

PuntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 47.68
2 Mediterranean 30.82
3 Caucasian 13.65
4 SW_Asian 4.27
5 Amerindian 0.89
6 E_Asian 0.82
7 Siberian 0.81
8 Omo_River 0.79
9 S_Indian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 1.93
2 Bosnian 5.59
3 French 5.98
4 Macedonian 6.28
5 Croatian 6.29
6 South_German 6.39
7 Utahn_White 6.99
8 Romanian 7.7
9 Hungarian 8.01
10 Bulgarian 8.4
11 Austrian 8.91
12 Irish 9
13 Slovenian 9.24
14 English 9.59
15 Orcadian 9.92
16 Montenegrin 10.33
17 Scottish 11.29
18 North_German 11.32
19 Italian 12.65
20 Norwegian 12.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Spaniard @ 1.51
2 71.1% Macedonian + 28.9% Swedish @ 1.53
3 64.8% Macedonian + 35.2% North_German @ 1.55
4 95.1% Serbian + 4.9% Basque @ 1.56
5 67.7% Macedonian + 32.3% Norwegian @ 1.56
6 61.7% Macedonian + 38.3% Orcadian @ 1.57
7 84% Serbian + 16% French @ 1.6
8 64.8% Macedonian + 35.2% Scottish @ 1.62
9 74.7% Macedonian + 25.3% Polish @ 1.64
10 94.8% Serbian + 5.2% Brazilian @ 1.65
11 59.4% Macedonian + 40.6% Irish @ 1.66
12 59.1% Macedonian + 40.9% Austrian @ 1.66
13 97.7% Serbian + 2.3% Sardinian @ 1.67
14 94.5% Serbian + 5.5% Portuguese @ 1.68
15 56% Bosnian + 44% Utahn_White @ 1.69
16 51% Romanian + 49% Hungarian @ 1.71
17 61% Macedonian + 39% English @ 1.73
18 53.7% Bosnian + 46.3% South_German @ 1.75
19 54.8% Romanian + 45.2% Slovenian @ 1.79
20 98.6% Serbian + 1.4% Colombian_B @ 1.79

Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian 0.35 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 0.63 Pct
Basque 0.15 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.86 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.01 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 14.74 Pct
East_Med 6.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.37 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.29 Pct
French 4.28 Pct
Iberian 7.19 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.70 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.53 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.03 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.89 Pct
North_Sea 9.94 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.38 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.68 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.26 Pct

**~~Gangrel~~** · 06-10-2019, 08:56 PM

*Bosniensis' true results

**Ayetooey** · 06-10-2019, 08:57 PM

Muslim Serb with atypical Y dna; where is he from?

**Kaspias** · 06-10-2019, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ayetooey

Muslim Serb with atypical Y dna; where is he from?

I haven't asked. I asked if he is Bosniak or Bosnian Serb or Bosnian Croat, he said he is a mix of Bosniak and Bosnian Serb. So he is not only Bosniak. Though they're all same at the end of the day as you said.

**~~Ford~~** · 06-10-2019, 09:04 PM

Very interesting results. Apart from his Y-DNA it looks like he might have some actual Turkic ancestry, or maybe I'm just biased since I know his haplogroup. However, there was one Bosniak posted on the Serbian DNA project's forum who had a pure Turkish name (ending with -oglu), might actually be some crypto Turks still present in Bosnia.

Can you check if I match him?

**Kaspias** · 06-10-2019, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ford

Very interesting results. Apart from his Y-DNA it looks like he might have some actual Turkic ancestry, or maybe I'm just biased since I know his haplogroup. However, there was one Bosniak posted on the Serbian DNA project's forum who had a pure Turkish name (ending with -oglu), might actually be some crypto Turks still present in Bosnia.

Although the amounts are quite low he scored all Turkic markers.

7 Amerindian 1.9
8 East_Asian 0.84
9 South_Asian 0.43
10 Siberian 0.19

It is common to score 1-1.5% Siberian in Slavs but it is not common to score all of these components together.

Oglu surname is commonly present in Balkan migrators of Turkey. They take their grandfather - or great-grandfather's name + oglu (Sinanoglu for example.) This actually means his/her family migrated to Turkey and lives there. It is equal to "Sinanovic". I don't think they would use it with -oglu form in Bosnia.

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No shared DNA segments found with default settings.
4.5 cM largest segment with 1cM threshold.

**Mr.G** · 06-10-2019, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Although the amounts are quite low he scored all Turkic markers.

7 Amerindian 1.9
8 East_Asian 0.84
9 South_Asian 0.43
10 Siberian 0.19

It is common to score 1-1.5% Siberian in Slavs but it is not common to score all of these components together.

Oglu surname is commonly present in Balkan migrators of Turkey. They take their grandfather - or great-grandfather's name + oglu (Sinanoglu for example.) This actually means his/her family migrated to Turkey and lives there. It is equal to "Sinanovic". I don't think they would use it with -oglu form in Bosnia.

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No shared DNA segments found with default settings.
4.5 cM largest segment with 1cM threshold.

Sorry Ford.

**~~Ford~~** · 06-10-2019, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Oglu surname is commonly present in Balkan migrators of Turkey. They take their grandfather - or great-grandfather's name + oglu (Sinanoglu for example.) This actually means his/her family migrated to Turkey and lives there. It is equal to "Sinanovic". I don't think they would use it with -oglu form in Bosnia.

Yes, that would make sense. I think the name was something Bosnian + oglu at the end, don't remember as I saw it a while back.

**Pribislav** · 06-10-2019, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

I haven't asked. I asked if he is Bosniak or Bosnian Serb or Bosnian Croat, he said he is a mix of Bosniak and Bosnian Serb. So he is not only Bosniak. Though they're all same at the end of the day as you said.

On Serbian dna project there is two Serbs which carry Q-L713.

One is from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarkovac

Second is from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokuplje

**~~Anxiety~~** · 06-10-2019, 10:24 PM

How many Turks are still living in the Balkans today? And what countries mostly? I know there is a community in Bulgaria with "ova" surnames but they appear assimilated to me. I doubt most of them even speak Turkish.