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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikol View Post
    2 questions:

    Is it normal for serbs to get e1b?


    Do u guys know how to use Nmonte calc?
    Not uncommon, the Med farmers and North Africans that came up with the other haplgroups pre-history carried it up into the Balkans. They assimilated into WHG populations. I am sure tons of Greeks brought it to the Region via the Balkans and Turkey
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Not uncommon, the Med farmers and North Africans that came up with the other haplgroups pre-history carried it up into the Balkans. They assimilated into WHG populations. I am sure tons of Greeks brought it to the Region via the Balkans and Turkey
    Is that why Greece has the biggest NA YDNA compared to the countries you named? Lmao. Your logic is ashtonising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anxiety View Post
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    I find it interesting as there are some rare Albanians that look pseudo-Berber. Could that be the remnant of the original Neolithic farmers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikol View Post
    According to morleydnapredicter im e1b, what does it actualty say?
    Wtf is that predicter? You should do real test.

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    East Med and South Med

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    It's neolithic european, the greeks and north africans belong to different e1b branch. The european E-V13:



    "For many years the vast majority of academics have assumed that E-V13 and other E1b1b lineages came to the Balkans from the southern Levant via Anatolia during the Neolithic, and that the high frequency of E-V13 was caused by a founder effect among the colonisers. This theory has it that E1b1b people were associated with the development of Neolithic lifestyle and the advent of agriculture in the Fertile Crescent and its earliest diffusion to Southeast Europe (Thessalian Neolithic) and Mediterranean Europe (Cardium Pottery culture). The testing of ancient DNA from the Natufian culture (Mesolithic Levant) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic Levant confirmed a high incidence of haplogroup E1b1b in that region. However, out of 69 Y-DNA samples tested from Neolithic Europe, only two belonged to that haplogroup: one E-M78 from the Sopot culture in Hungary (5000-4800 BCE), another E-M78 (c. 5000 BCE), possibly E-V13, from north-east Spain, and a E-L618 from Zemunica cave near Split in Croatia from 5500 BCE (Fernandes et al., 2016). Whether these E-M78 samples came with Neolithic farmers from the Near East or were already present among Mesolithic Europeans is unclear at present. But in any case E-V13 was definitely not the major Neolithic European lineage it was once alleged to be."

    North African E-M81:



    The middle eastern E-M123:



    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...1b_Y-DNA.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anxiety View Post
    Is that why Greece has the biggest NA YDNA compared to the countries you named? Lmao. Your logic is ashtonising.
    Greeks don't have the highest, look at Tunisia numbnuts, you are a special kind of stupid. Please go take your medication.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Germanin View Post
    It's neolithic european, the greeks and north africans belong to different e1b branch. The european E-V13:



    "For many years the vast majority of academics have assumed that E-V13 and other E1b1b lineages came to the Balkans from the southern Levant via Anatolia during the Neolithic, and that the high frequency of E-V13 was caused by a founder effect among the colonisers. This theory has it that E1b1b people were associated with the development of Neolithic lifestyle and the advent of agriculture in the Fertile Crescent and its earliest diffusion to Southeast Europe (Thessalian Neolithic) and Mediterranean Europe (Cardium Pottery culture). The testing of ancient DNA from the Natufian culture (Mesolithic Levant) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic Levant confirmed a high incidence of haplogroup E1b1b in that region. However, out of 69 Y-DNA samples tested from Neolithic Europe, only two belonged to that haplogroup: one E-M78 from the Sopot culture in Hungary (5000-4800 BCE), another E-M78 (c. 5000 BCE), possibly E-V13, from north-east Spain, and a E-L618 from Zemunica cave near Split in Croatia from 5500 BCE (Fernandes et al., 2016). Whether these E-M78 samples came with Neolithic farmers from the Near East or were already present among Mesolithic Europeans is unclear at present. But in any case E-V13 was definitely not the major Neolithic European lineage it was once alleged to be."

    North African E-M81:



    The middle eastern E-M123:



    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...1b_Y-DNA.shtml
    Germanin is correct
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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    Nothing, even E1b1b is 42000 years old. It was probably an ANA lineage

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