Jewish stereotypes, Are they true?

[Austin]

Mainly because it's convenient having a scapegoat, so they don't have to take responsibility for their own failures.

I don't know Loki about that. How do you explain all the rich characters throughout history who've been anti-Jewish?

Walt Disney was extremely anti-Jewish and was extremely wealthy and successful. I can name 500 others easily enough and of much greater influence.

There has to be something to it Loki...

I've experienced it firsthand. Jews do use influence to negatively impact white Europeans and negatively manipulate other peoples. They even hate the term white as I know as I was rebuked by one for using the term in reference to myself.

[rhiannon]

I sense a presence that I have not sensed since...since...

MOVING along.... Jews are an actual race. They are not European-white and they know this. They even acknowledge such and submit it to the CIA World Factbook as their nations ethnic data. See how they put "Jewish" instead of "European"? That is the Jewish race they are referring to. One can tell this because they say right after this "Europe/American born" which implies they are not either of those ethnicity....

Just because Jews identify as Jewish doesn't mean they're not white. Maybe you don't know any blonde Jews? If the features are Europid.....they're Europid. Perhaps a Jewish conversion happened back in their family tree.....I dunno.

But they are white....the Ashkenazi are. Why should that bother anyone? I would like you to tell me what it is about Jews that bothers you. Clearly, you are trying to antagonize me on the basis of your reply above.

Waiting patiently

[Austin]

Just because Jews identify as Jewish doesn't mean they're not white. Maybe you don't know any blonde Jews? If the features are Europid.....they're Europid. Perhaps a Jewish conversion happened back in their family tree.....I dunno.

But they are white....the Ashkenazi are. Why should that bother anyone? I would like you to tell me what it is about Jews that bothers you. Clearly, you are trying to antagonize me on the basis of your reply above.

Waiting patiently

Okay look I am a rationale, decent person. I'm sure you are as well, whoever you are. But let me tell you right now lady. There is no way on this earth that a mid-aged, wealthy Jewish guy rebuked me for referring to him and me as white, instead insisting that we were both caucasion, there is no way on earth that he was that anti-white on a default level enough to not want to be considered white that you are an actual white person. You're a Jew okay, I can very much sense it in what you type and how you type it. No way this Jewish secular guy insisted on being considered Caucasian in real life but a white woman on a European preservation forum insists Jews are white, no fucking way. I smell a rat.

[Mordid]

Austin je actually Joo..

[rhiannon]

Okay look I am a rationale, decent person. I'm sure you are as well, whoever you are. But let me tell you right now lady. There is no way on this earth that a mid-aged, wealthy Jewish guy rebuked me for referring to him and me as white, instead insisting that we were both caucasion, there is no way on earth that he was that anti-white on a default level enough to not want to be considered white that you are an actual white person. You're a Jew okay, I can very much sense it in what you type and how you type it. No way this Jewish secular guy insisted on being considered Caucasian in real life but a white woman on a European preservation forum insists Jews are white, no fucking way. I smell a rat.

I really hate to burst your bubble, sir.....I'm as white as you. There is not one single Jewish person in my family tree ANYWHERE. I come from old stock.

I can see my question sure got you riled up, though. Looks like there are even some *gasp* Jewish people on this European Preservation forum.

Forget I asked, since it bothers you so much.

What one Jewish dude tells you doesn't mean all other Jewish people are going to think the same way. Is this a shock to you? Are all non-Jews the same? No.

[Austin]

I really hate to burst your bubble, sir.....I'm as white as you. There is not one single Jewish person in my family tree ANYWHERE. I come from old stock.

I can see my question sure got you riled up, though. Looks like there are even some *gasp* Jewish people on this European Preservation forum.

Forget I asked, since it bothers you so much.

What one Jewish dude tells you doesn't mean all other Jewish people are going to think the same way. Is this a shock to you? Are all non-Jews the same? No.

You know what you're right. I don't know how I could have mistaken Jews for wanting to be racially considered Jews instead of Europeans (white=European in U.S.). After dealing with tens of thousands of high-powered Jewish law firms emails from London/SF/LA/NYC/Chicago/Houston and answering their calls and managing their billing statements and logging their Jewish-named law firms meticulously, somewhere I just must have lost it and figured they were really serious about a Jewish racial identity. I don't know how this happened. 16 million dollars in awarded cases and not one WASP firm used, Jesus fucking A and to think I bought into Jewish stereotypes.... You're right, Jews do consider themselves the same as WASPS racially.... What was I thinking...

[Osweo]

Most Jews are in the same boat as the rest of us..

I don't see many down here in Steerage, though....

And if I DID, I'd demand to be moved to the bilge!

Walt Disney was extremely anti-Jewish and was extremely wealthy and successful.

He was Spanish, though. It's in the blood...

Maybe you don't know any blonde Jews? If the features are Europid.....they're Europid.

Your error stems from an overly literalist biological interpretation of the unfortunate word 'white'.

There are pleny of Arabic and Turkic speaking people who fit in your biological category. The fact is, however, that what people REALLY mean when they say 'white' is a descendant of the European civilisation, roughly coterminous with Christendom. Muslims and Jews need not apply, as their entire cultures are antithetical to this concept of Europe.

[rhiannon]

You know what you're right. I don't know how I could have mistaken Jews for wanting to be racially considered Jews instead of Europeans (white=European in U.S.). After dealing with tens of thousands of high-powered Jewish law firms emails from London/SF/LA/NYC/Chicago/Houston and answering their calls and managing their billing statements and logging their Jewish-named law firms meticulously, somewhere I just must have lost it and figured they were really serious about a Jewish racial identity. I don't know how this happened. 16 million dollars in awarded cases and not one WASP firm used, Jesus fucking A and to think I bought into Jewish stereotypes.... You're right, Jews do consider themselves the same as WASPS.... What was I thinking...

Are you a WASP? If so.....do you tend to prefer your own culturally speaking?

All nations of Europe could say the same thing.....they have done well as homogenous societies for a reason.

The thing with Jews....of course they should not be expected to be any different than you or other homogenous peoples.....but.....here is the thing you are missing: Jews have a history that goes all over the world. Jewish people are of many ethnic backgrounds....but they are TIED TOGETHER by the fact they are Jewish. This may be why they identify as such, culturally speaking. But, what it doesn't do is make those Jews of European ancestry any less White than you or I. I use the term white merely as a descriptor.

THIS is why I asked the question. The Ashkenazim are white and European. But I guess they are not seen that way because they identify themselves as Jewish, first.

I see no reason to hate them. The only Jews I hate are those currently engaged in the evictions of Palestinian families from their homeland. It bothers the hell out of me that the US gives Israel so much money.....but I also know that there are a ton of Jewish people also that are unhappy about what has been going on in Israel since they became a nation back in 1948. Being a Jew does not make one a Zionist automatically.

Maybe this explanation cleared things up a bit!

[rhiannon]

Your error stems from an overly literalist biological interpretation of the unfortunate word 'white'.

There are pleny of Arabic and Turkic speaking people who fit in your biological category. The fact is, however, that what people REALLY mean when they say 'white' is a descendant of the European civilisation, roughly coterminous with Christendom. Muslims and Jews need not apply, as their entire cultures are antithetical to this concept of Europe.

Ok. I can buy that.

[Austin]

Are you a WASP? If so.....do you tend to prefer your own culturally speaking?

All nations of Europe could say the same thing.....they have done well as homogenous societies for a reason.

The thing with Jews....of course they should not be expected to be any different than you or other homogenous peoples.....but.....here is the thing you are missing: Jews have a history that goes all over the world. Jewish people are of many ethnic backgrounds....but they are TIED TOGETHER by the fact they are Jewish. This may be why they identify as such, culturally speaking. But, what it doesn't do is make those Jews of European ancestry any less White than you or I. I use the term white merely as a descriptor.

THIS is why I asked the question. The Ashkenazim are white and European. But I guess they are not seen that way because they identify themselves as Jewish, first.

I see no reason to hate them. The only Jews I hate are those currently engaged in the evictions of Palestinian families from their homeland. It bothers the hell out of me that the US gives Israel so much money.....but I also know that there are a ton of Jewish people also that are unhappy about what has been going on in Israel since they became a nation back in 1948. Being a Jew does not make one a Zionist automatically.

Maybe this explanation cleared things up a bit!

Interesting. Commercial entertainment seems to think there is a Jewish race...

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As well as a few other people...

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No I am not a WASP. I come from a German Catholic family on my moms side and a Scandinavian/English/Scottish family on my dads side who are Methodist. WASPS as a group barely exist now in mental capacity, save for the elite ones. They are white like me though so I like them. They are European Christians in raw form, though many of them are lost social leftists who engage in depravity.

Yet I prefer to ally with them and the rising Catholic white-Hispanics and white South Americans against the Jews. The Jews are hateful and anti-European. I dislike this. The future is dark for Jews. Arabs are going to ally with white nationalists in Europe in the future and the rise of Hispanic-Catholics in the U.S. who are inherently anti-Jew will make life for Jews in America very interesting in the future.