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    Are spaniards more swarthy than askhenazi jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdisseusOfiucus View Post
    Are spaniards more swarthy than askhenazi jews?
    There were four pigmentations survey of schoolchildren carried out in Central Europe in the late 19th century, distinguishing between gentiles and Jews. The first, largest, and most famous survey was organized by Prussian biologist Rudolf Virchow to determine the hair, eye, and skin pigmentation of primary school students in the German Empire. He established a structure used by the later surveys. He classified hair as blond, brown, black, or brandrote (‚flaming-red‘). Eye color as blue, gray (really intermediate, including hazel, green, and dark grey), and Brown. Skin color was based on the unexposed skin on inner arm, classified as either white or brown. His results were published in 1876.

    Georg Mayr Conducted a similar survey at around the same time on the Kingdom of Bavaria which he published in 1875. Gustav Adolph Schimmer conducted the same survey in Cisleithanian Austria-Hungary, published in 1885. Jozef Körösi conducted the same survey in Buda Pest published in 1877.

    Altogether 145,380 Jewish schoolchildren out of millions of schoolchildren were observed between these surveys. 27.96% had brown skin, and 72.04% white skin.

    This indicates that Ashkenazi Jews are overall darker complexioned than any native population in the German Empire, Darker complexion than Budapest Austrians or Hungarians, and darker than the average for Cisleithania (78.31% white skin) However, Ashkenazi Jews are lighter than Dalmatia (50.87% white), Galicia (66.83% white), Istria (62.65%), Gorizia and Gradisca (65.2% white), and Triest and Gebiet (66.48% white). Ashkenazi are closest in complexion to Carniola (73.8%), and Tirol (73.55%), and Bukowina (73.56%). If only the Southern Tirol and Trento was counted, Ashkenazi Jews would certainly be no darker complexioned, as the overall county had an only weak German Austrian majority. With this understood, Ashkenazi Jews fit well in to Alpine Northeastern Italy in terms of skin tone.
    Ashkenazi Jews have a comparable proportion of fair skin overall to Northeastern Italians and Northeastern Italians are lighter pigmented in every way compared to the average Spaniard, and thus Spaniards have a higher frequency of swarthy skin compared to both groups. Still, the difference is not drastic.

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    Ashkenazim Jews might have some higher frequencies of blondish hair tones and light eyes than Spaniards, due to generations of mixing with Northern, central and eastern Europeans, but the pigmentation differences with Spaniards are not drastic, and Spaniards are more genuinely European than them, while Ashkenazim Jews are not more than intruders in European soil.

    If it wasn't for the many generations of them mixing with North, Central and Eastern Europeans, they would look like hooked nosed middle easterners, and would look like sand niggers compared to Spaniards.

    And indeed, even today, lots of Azkenazim Jews (with their Euro mixture and everything), look very swarthy and non European compared to Spaniards, like Albert Einstein, Sarah Jessica Parker, Michael Steinberg, Adan Sandler, etc, etc, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Ashkenazim Jews might have some higher frequencies of blondish hair tones and light eyes than Spaniards, due to generations of mixing with Northern, central and eastern Europeans, but the pigmentation differences with Spaniards are not drastic, and Spaniards are more genuinely European than them, while Ashkenazim Jews are not more than intruders in European soil.

    If it wasn't for the many generations of them mixing with North, Central and Eastern Europeans, they would look like hooked nosed middle easterners, and would look like sand niggers compared to Spaniards.

    And indeed, even today, lots of Azkenazim Jews (with their Euro mixture and everything), look very swarthy and non European compared to Spaniards, like Albert Einstein, Sarah Jessica Parker, Michael Steinberg, Adan Sandler, etc, etc, etc.
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    Are people like you with the equivalent of a non-Caucasoid great-grandparent also "not more than intruders in European soil. " ?

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    Some spaniards can be swarthier than some jews (esp ashkenazi that are mixed with northeners, yeah). It both due to some iberians and other southern euros being swarthy as hell and some jews being euro looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Ashkenazim Jews might have some higher frequencies of blondish hair tones and light eyes than Spaniards, due to generations of mixing with Northern, central and eastern Europeans, but the pigmentation differences with Spaniards are not drastic, and Spaniards are more genuinely European than them, while Ashkenazim Jews are not more than intruders in European soil.

    If it wasn't for the many generations of them mixing with North, Central and Eastern Europeans, they would look like hooked nosed middle easterners, and would look like sand niggers compared to Spaniards.

    And indeed, even today, lots of Azkenazim Jews (with their Euro mixture and everything), look very swarthy and non European compared to Spaniards, like Albert Einstein, Sarah Jessica Parker, Michael Steinberg, Adan Sandler, etc, etc, etc.
    I doubt Ashkenazi Jews have a greater frequency of light hair than Spaniards. They are somewhat darker than Northern Italians in hair color being comparable to Central Italians and Bulgarians who are probably not lighter haired than most Spaniards. Even though they are darker haired, rufosity is more common among Ashkenazi Jews than in Northern Italy, where red hair it is just less than 1% according to Livi, while among Ashkenazi Jews it is approximately 2-4% depending on population. In Eye color they are probably somewhat lighter than Spaniards as they are comparable to general northern Italy which is lighter eyed than Spain, but they are certainly not drastically lighter eyed.

    Ashkenazi Jews do indeed have plenty of very exotic types and swarthy skin is still quite common amongst them.

    If you look through wedding/engagement pictures on Orthadox Jewish press websites this is all too apparent:

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    Many of them look full Levantine, but more are intermediate between Southern Europeans and Levantines.

    Here is an example of a swarthy bride with Levantine features that would be considered exotic in Spain:
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    Take a look at this pure sephardic jew:









    Compare him to some southern euros, the difference is drastic:











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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    "Ancestry
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    Are people like you with the equivalent of a non-Caucasoid great-grandparent also "not more than intruders in European soil. " ?
    I'm more European than them for being son of a full Spanish mom (a genuinely European mother, unlike them). And I don't seek the destruction of Europe as some Jews do. I want the best, and the conservation of the continent where most of my ancestors come from.

    I'm not an intruder. I have all my right to mostly identify with what I mostly am.

    PS: and in any case, I wasn't talking about me, but about full Spaniards compared to Ashkenazim Jews.
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    Spaniards have less blondism that Ashkenazi that is for sure. However Spaniards cluster much closer to NW Euros than Ashkenazim.

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