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    Default Why do only Europeans and East Asians develop ethno states?

    Why brown people never seem to develop ethno states? They all live in multi ethnic countries like India, Nigeria and Iran. Only races that live up North seem to form their countries around ethnicity. Vietnamese (Mongoloids) still have an ethno state yet if you go a bit down South in Indonesia (which is already more brown than East Asian) there are already hundreds of ethnicities. Some non White groups still form ethno states like Turks or Tajik's but truly dark people never seem to do it and Sub Saharan Africans seem to be least ethnocentric. Why?

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    Why, is Australia an ethnostate?

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    ''Ethnostate'' is one of the dumbest alt-right notions circulating through the internet. It doesn't exist and never existed, maybe in the fantasies of the guys idealizing the family of Jack, 6'ft tall American Football player with a six-pack, and Mary Jane, blonde american girl running through the fields, as being the archetype of US society. The fact is that this image of the 50s in USA is an idealized past, never existed.

    They always come with ''but USA was 90% huwhite'', yeah counting Arabs, Indians (from India) and Mexicans as white you can be 90% white easily (all these groups were considered white at some point in US).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    ''Ethnostate'' is one of the dumbest alt-right notions circulating through the internet. It doesn't exist and never existed, maybe in the fantasies of the guys idealizing the family of Jack, 6'ft tall American Football player with a six-pack, and Mary Jane, blonde american girl running through the fields, as being the archetype of US society. The fact is that this image of the 50s in USA is an idealized past, never existed.

    They always come with ''but USA was 90% huwhite'', yeah counting Arabs, Indians (from India) and Mexicans as white you can be 90% white easily (all these groups were considered white at some point in US).
    European and East Asian countries back home have often been ethnostates (though some are undoubtedly phony, such as Belgium and Switzerland), but I agree the US and other European settler states never were, whatever the fantasies of WNs. As for East Asian countries, only Philippines and Indonesia don't really have an ethnic core to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    European and East Asian countries back home have often been ethnostates (though some are undoubtedly phony, such as Belgium and Switzerland), but I agree the US and other European settler states never were, whatever the fantasies of WNs. As for East Asian countries, only Philippines and Indonesia don't really have an ethnic core to them.
    Japan is not an ''ethnostate'', they are usually pretty open to foreigners who want to (truly) adopt Japanese culture, the thing is that most immigrants there aren't willing to do that. The thing these retards don't understand is that being ethnically homogeneous doesn't mean some country is any kind of ''ethnostate''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Japan is not an ''ethnostate'', they are usually pretty open to foreigners who want to (truly) adopt Japanese culture, the thing is that most immigrants there aren't willing to do that. The thing these retards don't understand is that being ethnically homogeneous doesn't mean some country is any kind of ''ethnostate''.
    Although changing, Japan's immigration and nationality laws are still among the most restrictive in the world; in many ways, it is all the more remarkable, given the country's very low birth rate and rapidly ageing population. So yes, they see Japanese identity as being one basically based on blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Although changing, Japan's immigration and nationality laws are still among the most restrictive in the world; in many ways, it is all the more remarkable, given the country's very low birth rate and rapidly ageing population. So yes, they see Japanese identity as being one basically based on blood.
    Having/supporting restrictive immigration policies doesn't mean one see identity as something merely based on blood, this is a fallacy known as begging the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Having/supporting restrictive immigration policies doesn't mean one see identity as something merely based on blood, this is a fallacy known as begging the question.
    Even second and third-generation Koreans are still regarded as outsiders by most Japanese, let alone immigrants and their descendants who look much more visibly different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Why brown people never seem to develop ethno states? They all live in multi ethnic countries like India, Nigeria and Iran. Only races that live up North seem to form their countries around ethnicity. Vietnamese (Mongoloids) still have an ethno state yet if you go a bit down South in Indonesia (which is already more brown than East Asian) there are already hundreds of ethnicities. Some non White groups still form ethno states like Turks or Tajik's but truly dark people never seem to do it and Sub Saharan Africans seem to be least ethnocentric. Why?
    Hmmm, I wouldn't say that ethnicities which are part of a multi-ethnic country are less ethnocentric than those who have ethno states. Rather the opposite. The fact that they still preserve the continuity of their own separate ethnic identity, language, and culture kind of proves that. What they have less of is independentist nationalism, not ethnocentrism.

    As for "ethno states" of races that live up north, there are quite some that are actually rather multi-ethnic. And some who use to be, but are becoming decreasingly so, because they're not particularly ethnocentric. For example Italy, when you look at the linguistic diversity it used to have just a century or two ago, you see it used to be a lot more diverse compared to now. Genetics confirm this diversity too, so indeed a multi-ethnic case. But with the rise of nationalism, they have all assumed an Italian identity, and are gradually morphing into one. I believe France and Germany are also similar cases. Not to even mention Russia, despite ethnic Russians being the vast majority in therms of percentage, it has plenty of ethnic groups. Actually, if you look further back enough, all Slavic countries likely used to be divided into several smaller tribes.
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