Nazi view on Laps, Slavs

[Ushtari]

Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazi racial ideology used it to describe "inferior people", especially "the masses from the East," that is Jews, Gypsies, Poles along with other Slavic people like the Russians, Serbs, Belarussians and Ukrainians[1][2][3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

[Pallantides]

Apparently some Saami must have been accepted into the Lebensborn project, Gerd Fleischer who was a Lebensborn child had a Saami mother.

[Austrvegr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

Nazi racial ideology never used the term Untermensch to describe Slavs.

[Austrvegr]

"The Soviets are a People Without Substance, a Formless Chaos"




Are these non-Europid "Russians" the famous "subhuman Slavs"?

I can not see where the original text mentions Russians or Slavs.

[HungAryan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_the_Wehrmacht

The history of Poles in the Wehrmacht, the unified armed forces of Nazi Germany, began with the German invasion of Poland in 1939. More than 225,000 citizens of the Polish Second Republic served in the Wehrmacht

In May 1943, after the discovery of Polish Officers graves in Katyn (see: Katyn Massacre), German propaganda started indicating that Polish volunteers would be needed. There was a rumor that the Nazis offered leadership of the Division to General Władysław Bortnowski, but he refused. Finally, on June 19, 1943 both Heinrich Himmler and Hans Frank suggested to Hitler that he should give permission for the creation of Polish units. Frank explained that the discovery of Katyn made the Poles angry and willing to take revenge on the Soviets, but Hitler bluntly refused.

According to reports sent to the Polish government-in-exile in London, Gestapo officials in several Polish cities were trying to talk about creating a common, anti-Communist front with the Poles, a thing that had been unheard of before. The Nazis also tried again to talk Wincenty Witos into issuing an appeal, but he refused.
Heinrich Himmler again came to Hitler asking for permission for the organization of Polish units, but Hitler stated that only Belarusians and Ukrainians, citizens of the Polish Second Republic, were allowed to serve as auxiliaries. In the fall of 1944, after the collapse of the Warsaw Uprising, Hitler finally allowed Poles to create their units.

If the Nazis hated the Poles so much, why did they employ Polish soldiers?

Come on... the Germans wanted back their territory + they wanted to destroy Communinsm.
If the Germans won the war, they would have freed the rest of Poland (apart from Prussia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82...82aw_Studnicki

Władysław Gizbert-Studnicki, a Polish politician and publicist, was born in 1867 in Daugavpils (Latvia) and died in 1953 in London. Throughout his life, Studnicki was famous for his strongly pro-German stance.

[Peasant]

If the Nazis hated the Poles so much, why did they employ Polish soldiers?

Meat for the grinder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82...82aw_Studnicki[/QUOTE]


Nice selective quoting.

'In January 1940 he issued an appeal to the German Government, protesting against policies of Nazi administration in occupied Poland. All of his appeals were ignored, and later Studnicki was imprisoned by the Germans in Warsaw’s infamous Pawiak prison.'

[European blood]

they are not russians because ethnical russians with pure asian look are very rare

They aren't ethnic Russians but they are Russian empire/Soviet Union citizens.

That's why i put Russians inside "".

Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazi racial ideology used it to describe "inferior people", especially "the masses from the East," that is Jews, Gypsies, Poles along with other Slavic people like the Russians, Serbs, Belarussians and Ukrainians[1][2][3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch

I think the correct translation of Subhuman is unmenschlich not untermensch.
This is a kind of problem in translation that feeds the caricature of Hitler and company as crazy people.

Note that the term Untermensch as used in this SS booklet does not -- contrary to a widespread misconception -- designate any racial or ethnic group other than Jews, who mobilize the Untermensch for their own purposes. Russians were victims of the Untermensch because they were living under Communism.

Alfred Rosenberg called the Untermensch "the scum that is present in every people, which through envy and high treason seizes power." What he's describing is the riffraff that forms the constituency for Marxism.

"Subhuman," however, as applied to some of the lower types of our own race, without any further explanation, seems a bit crazy. If the word subhuman is to be used as a translation for Untermensch, it should be made clear that what is meant is an inhuman character in some people rather than a subhuman racial type.

I don't think that Untermensch is a racial designation like Übermensch isn't.

Apparently some Saami must have been accepted into the Lebensborn project, Gerd Fleischer who was a Lebensborn child had a Saami mother.

For some reason they put the asian looking Laps picture over there.

The Nazi racial ideology was a lot more liberal than many people think.

Nazi racial ideology never used the term Untermensch to describe Slavs.

That is true.

They also say that the non-european races on european soil are the Jews, Laps and Gypsies.

They never say Slavs aren't an European race on European soil.

[Scrapple]

Ignore in a grumpy mood.