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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    No. We already have genetic results from 18th century BCE Canaanites from Israel, and they too had steppe ancestry which suggests that Levantines got it way before these groups that you have mentioned.
    Yet again (((they))) are the eternal enemy of steppes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Muslims in the Levant, namely Lebanese seem to score around 10% steppe ancestry. I've heard that they have assimilated Circassians and Bosniaks over the years.
    In Lebanon? No. Bosniaks went to Palestine and assimilated with the Palestinians, but they are a rarity among us Palis. Most Circassians lived in what is now Syria and Jordan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kattleen View Post
    Yet again (((they))) are the eternal enemy of steppes.
    I don't think any Jew in the park besides leftists remotely cares about it, so..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    In Lebanon? No. Bosniaks went to Palestine and assimilated with the Palestinians, but they are a rarity among us Palis. Most Circassians lived in what is now Syria and Jordan.
    Weird how muslim lebs score the most steppe-derived ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    Iranians dont get that much steppe tbh. They have less steppe influence than many lower castes in northern india. Most of their euro is more med shifted.

    Pashtuns, Tajiks, Northwest Indians, Pakistanis get the most steppe in the region.
    Look at the above results that i just posted. Iranians can score up to 25%

    The steppe in Iranians only came from one source and that was only from Early Iranics.

    Khorasanis are 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like.

    Iron age from Tepe Hasanlu:

    Iran_IA

    Iran_ChL 62.05
    Andronovo 17.05
    Anatolia_ChL 12.15
    BedouinB 8.65
    Han 0.10
    Yemenite_Jew 0.00
    Mongolian 0.00
    Paniya 0.00
    Yoruba 0.00
    BedouinA 0.00
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    1] "distance%=1.0037 / distance=0.010037"

    Iranian_Persian_Shi'i

    Iran_ChL 60.05
    Andronovo 21.15
    BedouinB 8.10
    Paniya 4.00
    BedouinA 3.15
    Mongolian 2.70
    Han 0.85
    Yemenite_Jew 0.00
    Yoruba 0.00
    Anatolia_ChL 0.00


    Kurds:

    [1] "distance%=1.5347 / distance=0.015347"

    Kurdish

    Iran_ChL 55.5
    Anatolia_ChL 18.0
    Andronovo 17.1
    BedouinB 7.3
    Mongolian 1.7
    Han 0.4
    Yemenite_Jew 0.0
    Paniya 0.0
    Yoruba 0.0
    BedouinA 0.0
    Last edited by Babak; 10-08-2019 at 02:04 PM.

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    Steppe in Lebanon is related to R1a-z93+CHG steppe pastoralists. Probably Mitanni related. Nothing modern euro about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Steppe in Lebanon is related to R1a-z93+CHG steppe pastoralists. Probably Mitanni related. Nothing modern euro about it.
    How common was R1a among Mittanis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negah View Post
    How common was R1a among Mittanis?
    I think no one knows. It's just speculated that they were mainly R1a-z93. But they weren't numerous in Mesopotamia/Middle-east anyway.

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    Iranian CM was basically a highland dweller of the Paleolithic Age. It was widespread in the highlands of Northern West Asia, specially around the foothills near the Caspian after the LGM. It was a very physically robust specimen, and it compared to the Cromagnons of Paleolithic Europe in breadth and stature. According to Coon, the Iranian CM's (Huto and Belt Cave, Iran) were physically superior to the Natufians, which were a fragile Med type.

    "The principal Mesolithic culture of Palestine was the Natufian. The skeletons of Natufians excavated at several sites indicates that they were rather short, lightly built, Gracile Mediterraneans with long heads and narrow faces, like many Arabs, Spaniards, and Portuguese today. They also resemble some of the living Dravidian peoples of southern India. The Mesolithic people of the northern borders of the Caucasoid country of Western Asia were heavier boned and larger-toothed, judging by those so far excavated, particularly at Belt and Hotu caves. Thus Mediterranean and Nordic populations may be distinguished both in Europe and in West Asia during the span of the Mesolithic. It is a moot point whether the Nordic skeletal type of Neolithic Northern Europe came from the West or the East, or from both."

    The Iranian CM's were exclusively of the Y-DNA J2. It is very likely that the Iranian CM's were cousins with the Epigravettian European CM's, since the HG's of Europe at during the Mesolithic was almost exclusively of the YDNA haplogroup I. YDNA J and YDNA I descend from IJ, the only instance of a modern male with the paragroup IJ was found in Iran so more then likely both CM types Originated in the vicinity of Iran. It is also likely that the Mesolithic Hunter Gatherers of the Ganges river in India, who were over 6 feet tall and robust, were also related to the IJ cromagnons, since IJ descends from HIJ and YDNA H is prevalent in South Asia.

    Here are 2 relic specimens, an Iranian CM and a Western European CM, each one has the characteristics of the region they came from.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gVRVVZRlRk

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    Op is irano nordoid type which is easily like 5-8 % of the total iranic population of iranic plateau .... Makes them in millions. CM component is mostcommon among Kurds and lurs. Proto iranid is like the most robust jawline phenotype in the whole Asia.

    Lol at regular users here saying they have never seen any iranian like that before.

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