Physical traits corresponding with psychological traits?

[The Journeyman]

Some guy last night tried to start mess with me for absolutely no reason during a pool game, I could tell just by his look (his attitude too) that he'd done some serious prison time. Then he got upset because I accidentally hit the cue ball next to his 65 year old girlfriend haha.

He kinda looked like this but thinner and apparently he was white

[mymy]

Some people don't perfectly fit a type. I am like between ESFP and ISFP (expressiveness and risk taking of ESFP, introspection and socially leaning ISFP - my I/E is very weak in both directions).

Yes, i understand it. I score sometimes INFP, depend what test do and in what mood i'm on that day. I always score high I and P, but S or N about 1-5 % . I accepted ISFP because my friend said INFPs are much more sensitive than i am. I don't follow conventions and i'm open minded, able to accept anyone and anything, but i have some melancholic depressive side sometimes and talent for writing and literature. However, i leave it for private moments, while i let most of people to think i'm optimistic and happy all the time. On enneagram test usually 9w1. And I study social work what is considered to be profession for bpth ISFP and INFP.
My conclusion: People are complex and it is hard to put big group of people in one category, because we are all unique and special on our own ways. You and me can be put in same category ISFP, but then we are different because you have tendencies to ESFP, and me to INFP and they are probably same strong as ISFP in us...
Some third person could go more close to ISTP and another to ISFJ... And some people fits perfectly ISFP in all aspects.

[Marmie Dearest]

Yes, i understand it. I score sometimes INFP, depend what test do and in what mood i'm on that day. I always score high I and P, but S or N about 1-5 % . I accepted ISFP because my friend said INFPs are much more sensitive than i am. I don't follow conventions and i'm open minded, able to accept anyone and anything, but i have some melancholic depressive side sometimes and talent for writing and literature. However, i leave it for private moments, while i let most of people to think i'm optimistic and happy all the time. On enneagram test usually 9w1. And I study social work what is considered to be profession for bpth ISFP and INFP.
My conclusion: People are complex and it is hard to put big group of people in one category, because we are all unique and special on our own ways. You and me can be put in same category ISFP, but then we are different because you have tendencies to ESFP, and me to INFP and they are probably same strong as ISFP in us...
Some third person could go more close to ISTP and another to ISFJ... And some people fits perfectly ISFP in all aspects.

In Enneagram I am an 6w7 which would make me seem ESFP-ish because 6's are more reactive than peaceful, subdued 9s, which seem more stereotypically INFP and ISFP (and sometimes ISFJ).

Also E7 tends to correlate to ExxP types in general.

I get called ESFP sometimes despite my ISFP tendencies because I can be so feisty. ESFPs learn competitively, like to entertain and make people laugh, and so I can relate to descriptions of both.

I really like the overall Artisan description. I do agree that INFPs can seem more sensitive than ISFPs.

My blunt, straight-forward way of dealing with people is part of what lets me know I am more Artisan than Idealist - because Idealist's main intelligence is diplomacy while Artisans are more tactical (and more competitive and willing to fight or argue than the stereotypical Idealist).

[Marmie Dearest]

Some guy last night tried to start mess with me for absolutely no reason during a pool game, I could tell just by his look (his attitude too) that he'd done some serious prison time. Then he got upset because I accidentally hit the cue ball next to his 65 year old girlfriend haha.

He kinda looked like this but thinner and apparently he was white

One of the things you should learn about personality theory straight off the bat is this: the man who started shit with you for no reason might be an ESTP with a lower IQ and criminal tendencies, while an ESTP with a higher IQ and more class acts like John F. Kennedy.

No, really.

[Maxn]

I'm pretty sure your thinking is dangerous and incorrect. First of all "J" isn't more "progressive." Ps are actually more open to new experiences and ideas. Artisan SPs are creative and embrace and make the "new." NPs, while respectively in their Idealist and Rational categories, are still more "open" than Js.

J is absolutely not progressive, it's preservational. That's why Guardian SJs are literally considered the guardians and keepers of culture and society.:

Pretty much anything "new" the last couple of millenia have been for the worse and i would not call embracing a degenerate lifestyle as a good personal quality. You have to separate new from better because they are not automatically the same. One of the things that separate us from animals is our ability to make judgments and decisions rather than following instinct or the herd

N isn't better than S, either. Ss are more likely to live in the real world, and N style thinking at its worst is fanciful and unrealistic. Both Sensing and Intuition are needed to make the world go round, with Intuitives actually needed in SMALLER numbers, because in larger numbers it actually might be destructive to the human race to have more people so obsessed with ideas and fantasies.

Es are also as necessary as Is because Es tend to be keepers of social cohesion.

Your theory is abusing Keirsey's intentions, which is respect and honor the importance of all types of intelligence, not to say one is better than another.
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"Better" requieres a context. Do you for example want an aristocratic independent personality or an easily manipulated flock mentality slave. If you want the latter, which i am sure the modern liberalcapitalist society prefers, then some of the types are better suited than others.

I do not value everything equally, and I use Keirsey's system for a better understanding of the world, i don't care about his intentions. Some personalities are just more valuable to the group than others, even though they might be needed in smaller numbers. I am sure that in a traditional society all different personalities are valuable, but many of them need a strong direction from above, and since we currently lack that they are rather part of the problem. An SJ guardian who protects a degenerate culture can not be called progressive, but it might still be better than trying to embrace even more degenerate practices. An INTJ sitting at home at the computer fantazising and not getting anything done in the real world is not ideal either.

[mymy]

In Enneagram I am an 6w7 which would make me seem ESFP-ish because 6's are more reactive than peaceful, subdued 9s, which seem more stereotypically INFP and ISFP (and sometimes ISFJ).

Also E7 tends to correlate to ExxP types in general.

I get called ESFP sometimes despite my ISFP tendencies because I can be so feisty. ESFPs learn competitively, like to entertain and make people laugh, and so I can relate to descriptions of both.

I really like the overall Artisan description. I do agree that INFPs can seem more sensitive than ISFPs.

My blunt, straight-forward way of dealing with people is part of what lets me know I am more Artisan than Idealist - because Idealist's main intelligence is diplomacy while Artisans are more tactical (and more competitive and willing to fight or argue than the stereotypical Idealist).

I'm not competitive at all, and i avoid arguing as much as i can, and when i can't anymore i just say to other person he or she is right and that's how it finish always. I think i even have some masohist tendencies, lol. My literature teacher always wanted me to go on competitions in high school and i hatted it, but always went because i didn't know how to refuse.
But i think i'm not true Idealist because i'm able to see real situation and understand what is happening in real world and i perfectly know some things are hard to change (although i often ignores those facts). I don't know whose trait is that, but i can deal with difficult situations quite good and can stand lot of things what other people wouldn't without loosing much nerves or getting into stress. However, i do fantasize a lot and sometimes i can be really melancholic for longer period of time(but still prefer to keep it private).


I wish i'm more extrovert, i really liked description for ESFP.