XP's Europe-wide pigmentation study

[Septentrion]

The north of France does have more elements that are lacking in the South like Keltic Nordics, Brunns etc but they are still in a smaller minority than in Britain or Germany say, when in Paris, Lille i saw a lot of typical French types, atlantid-alpine mixes, some meds but not many, Noric, dinaric influenced types and a few Nordics. The south of France is only different from the North in the more general absence of UP survivors especially, otherwise it is the same.

Keltic Nordids, Brunns are found in northern France, true, but they are in much smaller minority. Nowhere to be compared with Britain. The French mean cephalic index is way too high to have them in great numbers, as well as head size smaller than with Brits. One of the crucial difference in racial phenotypes between the French and British is cephalic index. Especially today do not use great urban centers such as Paris as an example. You well know people have moved to cities from all over. So it is a bad place to make comparisons. For example the Paris area and the Seine department as a whole has the second lowest frequency of blue eyes in mainland France! Despite the fact that is northern France.

[Septentrion]

From medium brown to blond (including red):

Norway:77%
Finland:76%
Sweden:75%
Estonia:74%
Denmark:73%
Latvia:72%
Lithuania:71%
Russia (only ethnic russians):70%
The neetherlands:69%
England:67%
Germany:65%
Scotland:63%
Ireland:60%
Poland:59%
Belgium:58%
Wales:55%
Czech republic:54%
Slovakia:52%
Austria:48%
Switzerland:45%
France:38%
Hungary:30%
Slovenia:28%
Croatia:25%
Italy:15%
Serbia:12%
Albania:11%
Bulgaria:10%
Spain:8%
Portugal:5%
Greece:3%

Good job! However, I differ a little as I have Finland as the lightest (83%). I don’t have Russians ( 70%) lighter than the Dutch ( 73%) either.

[Supercomputer]

From medium brown to blond (including red):

Norway:77%
Finland:76%
Sweden:75%
Estonia:74%
Denmark:73%
Latvia:72%
Lithuania:71%
Russia (only ethnic russians):70%
The neetherlands:69%
England:67%
Germany:65%
Scotland:63%
Ireland:60%
Poland:59%
Belgium:58%
Wales:55%
Czech republic:54%
Slovakia:52%
Austria:48%
Switzerland:45%
France:38%
Hungary:30%
Slovenia:28%
Croatia:25%
Italy:15%
Serbia:12%
Albania:11%
Bulgaria:10%
Spain:8%
Portugal:5%
Greece:3%

Source?

Edit: Ireland seems a bit high, otherwise very realistic.

[Supercomputer]

Good job! However, I differ a little as I have Finland as the lightest (83%). I don’t have Russians ( 70%) lighter than the Dutch ( 73%) either.

So you did a study too? Can you give numbers for all the countries?

[Septentrion]

So you did a study too? Can you give numbers for all the countries?

I just made a comment concerning list by Ubermensch. I did these studies ( pigmentation studies) a very long time ago. It is all in my wonderful archives. Although, mine are not based on bias.

[Muffinman]

Seems fairly accurate except for the Mediterranean race map. What is it based on exactly, and why exclude Atlanto-med? It's like excluding Halstatt or Corded from the Nordic race.

[sofiagris]

I translated my source yes what's wrong with that ? And the pic you posted here are for algerians not riffians read correctly the article. And why is it impossible that some north moroccans are lighter than the average spaniard ? that's not a rational way to analyze the situation focus on the data instead of spreading your nasty stereotypes.

[Valenman]

It is not necessary to travel to Morocco to know what they are like physically, millions of Moroccans live in Spain, France and the rest of Europe. Light eyes do not reach 5% and in the south of Spain there are 23%. Perhaps one in ten Moroccans can pass for Spanish, but 90% are clearly North African.

You are right, in Spain the majority of Moroccans are Rifereños or from the North of the country and even at most 10-15% pass for Spanish, I would say that at least half would not pass as "white" even in Latin American countries. Pred.Meztizos of Latin America

[aherne]

The OP percentages are very accurate with a bit of small mistakes due to samples being too small:

1. Little Russians are a bit darker than Great Russians
2. Romanians are a bit lighter than Iberians
3. The differences between Catholics and Orthodox among SW Slavs are exaggerated
4. The Englishmen I saw in London are lighter than any Germans (and more Germanic), except Lower Saxony and Schleswig-Holstein

But the overall percentages are quite accurate: 10% of ethnic French being blonde and 2% of ethnic Romanians is accurate. In terms of eye color, it would be in the range of 40-45% vs 10-15% (as anthropologists calculated)...

[Kess]

Med race map seems BS.

How did Spain end up with being only around %13 med?

Even if you exclude Atlanto-med, you can’t get that number.

Was Gallop involved in this research?