Reason for mass immigration

[Treffie]

Right so you blame the factory workers that are being laid off because they want minimum wage for a job and not having to pay a lot of money for their groceries for the immigrants that take over their jobs ? Is that correct ?

Why would I want to blame the factory workers?

The consumer, be they factory workers, nurses, dog-walkers (it doesn't matter what their profession is) wants lower prices, (very few people actually want to pay more for their groceries).

[Fiona]

We, as the consumer are to blame.

THat's so true. It's all our faults. That reminds me I did want to go shopping today

[Ibericus]

If mass immigration is so good for the economy, why isn't there massive immigration going to Africa ??

[Logan]

If mass immigration is so good for the economy, why isn't there massive immigration going to Africa ??

Poor infrastracture to start the list.

[Ibericus]

Poor infrastracture to start the list.

But, why isn't massive immigration going to ameriolate infrastructure in Africa ? Supposedly immigration would make europeans rich. But what the heck, we have 20% unemployment and 40% among youth, that's progress !!

[Troll's Puzzle]

Why would I want to blame the factory workers?

The consumer, be they factory workers, nurses, dog-walkers (it doesn't matter what their profession is) wants lower prices, (very few people actually want to pay more for their groceries).

but the 'consumer' generally doesn't want (or didn't want) mass immigration either, however the decision was not up to them.

IMO it's wrong to 'blame' the 'mass' for that anyway, it's like you believe they are the rational, perfect, calculating animal that exists only in the bullshit textbooks.

oh look, there's a milton freeman vid in the thread

[Logan]

But, why isn't massive immigration going to ameriolate infrastructure in Africa ? Supposedly immigration would make europeans rich. But what the heck, we have 20% unemployment and 40% among youth, that's progress !!

Under 10% in the States. I would think Africa very much above due to; lack of infarstructure, lack of development, lack of employment and so lack of immigrants.

Perhaps, in some aspects, better off as European colonies.

[Logan]

but the 'consumer' generally doesn't want (or didn't want) mass immigration either, however the decision was not up to them.

IMO it's wrong to 'blame' the 'mass' for that anyway, it's like you believe they are the rational, perfect, calculating animal that exists only in the bullshit textbooks.

oh look, there's a milton freeman vid in the thread

The lot of us are too fragmented to have much affect.

[Fiona]

The 3 selections are too comical. I literally can't choose any of them.

I voted the last one. It has to be about making money. What do you think it is?

[Husaria]

Right so you blame the factory workers that are being laid off because they want minimum wage for a job and not having to pay a lot of money for their groceries for the immigrants that take over their jobs ? Is that correct ?

Actually minimum wage is likely a large part of the problem. raising minimum wage doesn't seem to do much of anything.
Because it artificially inflates the wages.

Wealth is based on products. (IF you have more products / resources you have more wealth)

Well, If you increase the minimum wage but do not increase production? Then, you end up with the same wealth. Because, There is no increase in production. There for it is an artificial increase.

Companies often lay people off & or raise prices to make up for the increases in minimum wage.

So, there is nothing really gained. In fact it just contributes to Inflated prices & makes it so people's money has trouble keeping up.

Well, all of these increases in minimum wage have promoted shipping manufacturing to cheaper areas & importing cheaper labor.

As you increase minimum wage you become less competitive on a global scale.
The west is seeing the effects of this & is being undermined by lower wage nations.

Alot of it is the Leftists faults for increasing minimum wages & taxes.