True Aryan Jatt results

[Leto]

Jatts and rors might be more indo-iranic than many pashtuns and tajiks due to us having higher amount of BMAC ancestry(and maybe also a bit turkic and persian).

Jatts and rors are more of a mix between IVC and indo-iranics + a bit bmac(if any).

Why are you a sock puppet now, Hussein?

[bulunulu]

Why are you a sock puppet now, Hussein?

Because for some reason i got banned. DOnt know why tbh. I didnt do anything actually.

[Oghuz]

What people don't get is North West Indians like jatts from haryana and rajasthan have retained most of their steppe admix, which they don't directly get it from steppe people but diluted filtered down through waves. Its also common among South asians like brahmins since they follow the caste system, so High caste brahmins mix with only other brahmins. Jatts look like regular south asian to me. True aryans pre dating the indo aryan invasions into India are founded in tajikstan, Afghanistan. Like this :

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.

[Leto]

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.

Unfortunately they were seriously affected by Mongoloid invasions. Even the Yunusbayev average is 15% Mongoloid. Some can be as much as 20%, I believe (not counting people with recent Uzbek ancestry). Compare with users Mingle and Hussein Khan who are both 2-3% only (on GEDmatch).

[lameduck]

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.

tajik genetics have been seriously effected by turko mongol invasion of central asia , but still in isolated pockets of gilgit baltistan , badakshan Afghansitan and south tajikistan there live non turkic mixed tajiks.

[Hajimurad]

Indo-Iranic speakers (Aryans) should be differentiated into three groups:
1) Vedic Aryans (Pakistan and North India).
2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan).
About Jats I heard many different theories (including Dardic, Indo-Scythian, Yuechi etc) but they bore name from Yadu(Yadava) tribe of Vedic Aryans and speak languages, derived from Shuraseni prakrit (Punjabi, Rajasthani, Jattki). Also, according to Denzil Ibbetson, many Jat clans trace their descent from Rajputs.

[bulunulu]

Indo-Iranic speakers (Aryans) should be differentiated into three groups:
1) Vedic Aryans (Pakistan and North India).
2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan).
About Jats I heard many different theories (including Dardic, Indo-Scythian, Yuechi etc) but they bore name from Yadu(Yadava) tribe of Vedic Aryans and speak languages, derived from Shuraseni prakrit (Punjabi, Rajasthani, Jattki). Also, according to Denzil Ibbetson, many Jat clans trace their descent from Rajputs.

"2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan)."

Arent ALL iranics from CA descended from sakas and avestans?
Why is it avestan for central asians and not sakas for them or pamiris and afghans having avestan ancestry too?
Dont see why indo-iranic ancestry between central asians and pamiris + afghans should be different....

[Hajimurad]

"2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan)."

Arent ALL iranics from CA descended from sakas and avestans?
Why is it avestan for central asians and not sakas for them or pamiris and afghans having avestan ancestry too?
Dont see why indo-iranic ancestry between central asians and pamiris + afghans should be different....

Because Pashto and Pamiri Tajik languages are Eastern Iranian, spoken by nomad Sakas (Scythians) and Yuechi (Massagetae) and related to Khotan Saka language. They both indeed have Avestan and Vedic ancestry but it's not important than Eastern Iranian. For example Pashtuns have tribes of Pashai and Nuristani origin. According to Russian ethnographers many Tajiks of Yazgulam, Wakhan and Sarykol trace their origin from Kashmir, Hunza-Nagar, Khyber and Mashhad.

[Arcadefire]

Word "Jatt" derives from the sanskrit word "Jati" which originally loosely translated to the word "community" to describe those who worked in the farms along the fertile land under the mountains. Many of such farmers ended up owning their lands and later came into prominence in society. It makes no sense when the word "Jatt" is used to describe an entire group of population in India.

[Leto]

Is there any info on Y DNA distribution in the Pamir region? Are they as high in R1a as Pashtuns (40-50%)? I believe Afghanistan Tajiks are around 25-30% R1a.