When did Europe stop seeing Islam as Satanism?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Yes I can name you a few:

Ottoman Empire
Persian Empire (Yes ofc also after islamization)
Umayyad
Mughal

Those were empires not civilizations, unless you want to consider them as complex and thriving societies for their era (which I personally do not). I could be here all day pointing out how the few scholars worth mentioning that rose from those empires achieved what they achieved due to the transmission of classical Greco-Roman knowledge or other school of thought that rose from a pagan society. They had to have a scientific background source, which clearly wasn't to be found in the Quran or in Islamic preach. Just to name a few examples, the so called Arabic astronomy only came to be through the mediation of Hellenistic astronomy. Also the Ottoman architecture was mostly based on Byzantine architectural artifacts such as the church of Hagia Sophia, which served as a role-model for most of the Ottoman mosques.

[Teutone]

Those were empires not civilizations, unless you want to consider them as complex and thriving societies for their era (which I personally do not). I could be here all day pointing out how the few scholars worth mentioning that rose from those empires achieved what they achieved due to the transmission of classical Greco-Roman or other school of thought that rose from a pagan society. They had to have a background source. Just to name a few examples, the so called Arabic astronomy only came to be through the mediation of Hellenistic astronomy. Also the Ottoman architecture was mostly based on Byzantine architectural artifacts such as the church of Hagia Sophia, which served as a role-model for most of the Ottoman mosques.

Greatness is shown in militaristic victories, conquest and submission of others.

[Nassbean]

Those were empires not civilizations, unless you want to consider them as complex and thriving societies for their era (which I personally do not). I could be here all day pointing out how the few scholars worth mentioning that rose from those empires achieved what they achieved due to the transmission of classical Greco-Roman knowledge or other school of thought that rose from a pagan society. They had to have a scientific background source, which clearly wasn't to be found in the Quran or in Islamic preach. Just to name a few examples, the so called Arabic astronomy only came to be through the mediation of Hellenistic astronomy. Also the Ottoman architecture was mostly based on Byzantine architectural artifacts such as the church of Hagia Sophia, which served as a role-model for most of the Ottoman mosques.

Haha seriously I laughed thanks but you clearly don't know what you're talking about stop embarassing yourself it's cringy

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Greatness is shown in militaristic victories, conquest and submission of others.

Greatness is shown in what you leave behind since every Empire and civilization falls. Legacy is what matters and what Islam left as a legacy is failed societies and nations that weren't able to accomplish more than societies that were pagan.

[Teutone]

Sharia wouldnt be that bad if it wouldnt bann music,beer and football.

just saying

[Teutone]

Greatness is shown in what you leave behind since every Empire and civilization falls. Legacy is what matters and what Islam left as a legacy is failed societies and nations that weren't able to accomplish more than societies that were pagan.

I focus on my own civilization/people, I dont give to much of a damn about Europe. I respect the Roman and Hellenic culture alot.

But compare the pagan Germanic civilization to a arab civilization? Arabs/Islamic societies accomplish way more.

Its not hard to be superiour to Germanic pagan tribes, its enough to be beyond stone age.

[Faklon]

Many ancient civilizations were pagan societies and gave birth to scholars that are timeless: Mesopotamia, Indus Valley, Ancient Egypt, Ancient Greece, Ancient China, Ancient Rome, Mayans, etc.

What is noteworthy about the Indus Valley in terms of phiilosophy? The stupid concept of Karma?

Aristotle and Plato rejected the classical tradition. Aristotle in physics imagined the god as one eternal primary mover and Plato introduced Socrates who was executed for denying the gods!

All Chinese religions/behavioural settings(Confucianism, Taoism, Buddhism) are spiritual.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

I focus on my own civilization/people, I dont give to much of a damn about Europe. I respect the Roman and Hellenic culture alot.

But compare the pagan Germanic civilization to a arab civilization? Arabs/Islamic societies accomplish way more.

Its not hard to be superiour to Germanic pagan tribes, its enough to be beyond stone age.

There was never such thing as "pagan Germanic civilization". There were pagan tribes scattered around. You can make a more fair comparison by comparing Ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia with what Islamic societies accomplished in the last fifteen centuries.

[Smeagol]

What is noteworthy about the Indus Valley in terms of phiilosophy? The stupid concept of Karma?

Ancient Egypt has nothing significant in terms of philosophy either.

[Teutone]

There was never such thing as "pagan Germanic civilization". There were pagan tribes scattered around. You can make a more fair comparison by comparing Ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia with what Islamic societies accomplished in the last fifteen centuries.

If we can count Turkey and Iran, they arent certainly worse than the ottoman or persian empire.

Iran in general would be a significant geopolitical power without the sanctions and a little bit wiser leaders. Islam does not harm Iran as people might suggest.

The Islamic revolution provided great projects to modernize infrastructure.

If women,gays or leftist students are opressed doesnt bother me at all, couldnt care less if we opress these groups again here.