View Poll Results: Do you perceive the love story between Aragorn and Arwen as race-mixing propaganda?

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  • Yes, it is miscegenation, and has a bad influence.

    9 13.64%
  • Yes, it is miscegenation, but it is a lovely story and has a good influence.

    20 30.30%
  • No, it isn't miscegenation.

    37 56.06%
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    Originally Posted by Matritensis
    Tolkien lived in a world that doesn't exist anymore,so putting him in the context of modern culture and society really doesn't work...maybe you should read the books first.As a Catholic though,of course he was anti fascist.Anti communist too,i'd guess.
    Tolkien had a deep love for England and dedicated his life to the study, preservation and advancement of its culture, and, quite rightly, had no time for the idiocy of National Socialism, Communism or any other two bit statist philosophy based on half arsed theories and dubious ideologies (he also detested the emerging globalism of his time). From his letters I find a deep love for his people, country and its heritage. Personally I would imagine Tolkien would have been disgusted by anything that smacked of "multiculturalism" or the "equality" i.e. conformism to the lowest denominator, in that he was quintessentially English.
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    I highly doubt it was Tolkien's aim to promote large-scale miscegenation. In fact I know it was not his intention. I have no political stand on the miscenegation that goes on in Middle Earth.
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    They're all white elves and dwarves. One group is Finnish, the other is Welsh. And they don't pork the Nazgul or the Orcr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    They're all white elves and dwarves. One group is Finnish, the other is Welsh. And they don't pork the Nazgul or the Orcr.
    I thought Dwarves were Hebrew atleast their language sounds that way.

    The Elvish langauages are based on Finnish and Welsh correct?


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    Without any shadow of doubt, Pallantides is one of those multicultural mixes as I said in his "classify me".

    Dwarves have some jewish personality traits, as the gold greed, but in general they are related better to slavic cultures in my opinion, as Warhammer seems to point.

    Anyway, he insisted that his hobbits where based in the humans of modern ages, including himself, who preffer their current comfortable and sure lives than deeds and adventures.
    Antes de subir al cadalso, Juan de Padilla se dirigió a su camarada Juan Bravo con unas célebres palabras: "Señor Bravo: ayer era día de pelear como caballero...hoy es día de morir como cristiano". Ante esto, Juan Bravo pidió ser ejecutado antes que Padilla, "…para no ver la muerte de tan buen caballero". Horas más tarde, también fue ejecutado y decapitado el salmantino Francisco Maldonado.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano Viejo View Post
    Without any shadow of doubt, Pallantides is one of those multicultural mixes as I said in his "classify me".

    Excuse me?

    A quick look on my Genetic profile proves you wrong.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12177

    These are indicative of all-Euro ancestry. As explained above, the S. Asian numbers refer to long-ago mixing, not anything recent. The negative Mideast number is significant: it seems to be indicative of people living near the shores of the Baltic.
    You seem to think I am mixed with Asians or other non-Europeas, wich I have proven have no basis in reality, so I'm sorry but I don't take this as a joke.
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    OK!

    My words:
    Pallantides is one of those multicultural mixes
    Whatever, you have -reading in context- problems.

    Try harder, champion of (eastern) lothlorien.

    I will give you a tip:
    Take a look at the tittles of the thread, it helps to find the context.

    In our case: "Do you perceive the love story between Aragorn and Arwen(...)"

    Clearer now?

    Now look at my words again...
    ... Yes, good boy.
    Antes de subir al cadalso, Juan de Padilla se dirigió a su camarada Juan Bravo con unas célebres palabras: "Señor Bravo: ayer era día de pelear como caballero...hoy es día de morir como cristiano". Ante esto, Juan Bravo pidió ser ejecutado antes que Padilla, "…para no ver la muerte de tan buen caballero". Horas más tarde, también fue ejecutado y decapitado el salmantino Francisco Maldonado.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post

    The Elvish langauages are based on Finnish and Welsh correct?
    Sindarin is based on Welsh, Old Norse and Old English, Quenya on Finnish, Greek and Latin.

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    Technically it would be inter-species breeding, not interracial breeding.

    At any rate, the Elves are god-men, and Aragorn is a man. If anything the figure we are supposed to identify as one of us (human Aragorn) is breeding upwards with supernatural beings and creating god-like offspring. It's very much like the stories of the angelic and heavenly creatures taking human wives in Hebrew myths.

    I don't see anything negative in this at all, far less some sort of pro-miscegenation propaganda. Indeed, if it is miscegenation, it is of a sort that many devotees of the Aryan cult would approve and have approved whole-heartedly (e.g. Liebenfels theozoa).

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