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    The concept of normality is based on a confusion between is and ought, or what is statistically average and what one ought to do or be. Each is meaningful on its own but those who confuse these two kinds of normality fall into a trap of arguing that everyone should be closer to average than they are.

    Conversely, they will use the word "deviant" as a negative trait, the opposite of normal, confusing what is rare with what is wrong. They forget that the genius is the ultimate deviant. Do they really think that we all should conform to a herd and limit our culture to the lowest common denominator?

    Why be normal? Why not?

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    I know a song that has a beautiful phrase:

    "There is a god in each society
    So right is wrong where wrong is right "

    The concept of "being normal" - In my opinion - depends solely on what others demand of others, and the right to judge according to these demands. But each culture has different requirements. Therefore, "be normal" means fit into patterns established by others; is to be accepted, comfortably admired in some cases, but stay attached to masks.

    In Brazil, we say "by close, nobody is normal." When meeting someone for real, you find the peculiarities we all have.

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    Is there such thing?

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    Normality is just a kind of save harbour for mediocrity or even plain imbecility. I was been always regarded (there're things difficult to disguise) as a rare one...and (slighty traumatized even now, maybe) but indeed proud of it.

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    Normality is simply what is regarded as conventional by a specific society at a specific time. As such, at some periods it's been overrated, and some others underrated.

    Nowadays in the West, being abnormal is normal, while being normal is abnormal.
    < La Catalogne peut se passer de l'univers entier, et ses voisins ne peuvent se passer d'elle. > Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    Do they really think that we all should conform to a herd and limit our culture to the lowest common denominator?
    We should all conform to the collective coomon good,which doesnt mean conforming to the lowest common denominator.

    This way you can be wacky and have a distreesed haircut and wear that moody "im so individual" look to try and pull a few birds........and not be considered normal......but a nice quiet boy who likes to stay up in his room listening to records.

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    I think the question of normality is simply a social issue. Of course there are natural norms or standards but these don't operate on rules or principles like social norms or standards. I think acting normally so to speak we all conform to from a young age both within the family and social structures.

    There are always opportunities to act abnormal or chaotic in so far as it is refined to a personal space that does not make it possible to interrupt the daily flow of social life.

    Of course some people will see an abnormal behavior as being normal either because they are abnormal themselves or because the action itself seems to go against the norm.

    It is true though that a person who resists or goes against a faulty norm or standard will be looked upon in a negative light but this is simply due to social issues. That said all norms or standards are determined by social values but instead sometimes they naturally present themselves to us in the form of common sense.

    Of course social values will generationally have an influence on this common sense but the goal of our social values should intend to defend and preserve the common sensical understanding of "normality" in the process of imposing social laws. To a certain extent normality can be explained both from a social and common sensical standpoint but to a certain point we can not define it from either point of view and it seems that we are rather uncertain when it is definable or not at times.
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    Normal or not, you should always be yourself as long as your behaving doesn't put lives of other people in danger.

    Conventional is not always good. I see some traits of majority as quite deviant, but still, society treat it as normal. So, to different people "normal" has different meaning. And yes, i refuse to accept that normal is what majority say....

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    What is normal from a social perspective will depend on the social perspective of that culture on the other hand the norms and standards imposed and determined by nature are universal and applicable in almost every case. The masses tend to be deviant more often than not but sometimes this deviance is accepted as normal from the average person's mind but from a healthy social perspective it could be seen as presenting a problem.

    This is why we build and construct systems of laws to protect the herd from itself and to protect others from the all consuming selfishness and egotism of the masses. I think the masses have a negative concept of applying them appropriately socially and they ressent people who are able to or do so.

    This means there will be constant friction and tension between the "atypical" and "typical" individual and the supposed atypical person should try to gain every advantage socially over the "typical" individual in the situation that the "typical" person represents the ignorant masses.

    The "typical" person will range in variation depending on the social perspective and the social perspective will range in variation depending on the typicality and atypicality of the individual in charge of dictating the social perspective.


    I think it is possible from a social point of view to see one person as typical or atypical from many different points of view so when determining whether or not someone is normal or not is not always any more clear cut than the opinions of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    Why be normal?
    Why not?

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